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re: Hypocrisy of Both Sides- Own It

Posted on 9/21/20 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by krones
Pacific Wonderland
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 8:48 pm to
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Mitch didn’t need an excuse to hold up Garland. Obama didn’t have the votes. Trump has the votes. Dems the rules.



I agree. Which is why Mitch needs to quit pretending that he's simply adhering to some sort of made up rule.

That said, if (and it's a big if) both Biden wins in November and the Democrats take control of the Senate, the same logic will apply if they want to pack the court or admit new states to swing the Senate.

Democrats will have the votes, and as you say, dems will be the rules. They won't be 'stealing' anything.

I don't blame McConnell for what he's doing here, but I think that Republicans need to be careful that this doesn't become a sort of pyrrhic victory. A conservative in Ginsberg's seat will energize Democratic voters, and if they gain the majority they are going to use it.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15561 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 8:52 pm to
They have the votes

It’s done

We’ll have a new Justice before the election

Ms Lindsey

This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 8:53 pm
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 10:52 pm to
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That said, if (and it's a big if) both Biden wins in November and the Democrats take control of the Senate, the same logic will apply if they want to pack the court or admit new states to swing the Senate.


So you are equating the normal process of SCOTUS nomination and appointment with adding seats to the SCOTUS and adding new states?
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14930 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:02 am to
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That said, if (and it's a big if) both Biden wins in November and the Democrats take control of the Senate, the same logic will apply if they want to pack the court or admit new states to swing the Senate.

Democrats will have the votes, and as you say, dems will be the rules. They won't be 'stealing' anything.


This is stupid. There is following the rules and changing the rules.

First off, this is historically what happens.

Secondly, mitch is not hypocritical, he is following the rule of history that he followed last time.

Third, democrats place people in the court who change the law, Republicans place people in who follow the constitution. The latter is better.

Fourth, no one has packed the courts. That is findings changing the rules for temporary short gain. What will happen is Republicans will do the dame thing soon and we will swing dramatically back and forth with court decisions till theSupreme Court numbers 500 people.

Democrats changed the rules for needing just a simple majority. They did that so they could place very liberal judges on the Supreme Court.

What he should have done was placed someone like garland on the court before placing Kagan or Sotomayor. But instead they changed the rules.

I'm done with them. I hope the rest of the country is as well.
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