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re: With all the trade talk on here and FB groups.Shouldnt finding the head coach come first?
Posted on 9/21/20 at 3:28 pm to Dantheman504
Posted on 9/21/20 at 3:28 pm to Dantheman504
calm down Dan.
You have this assumption that i don't want to win.
I expect this team to get better every year.
Jrue is a role player. BI and Zion are the catalyst to our success for the next 5 years.
You thinking that Zion should be competing for a championship next year is just ridiculous. Name me another guy in his 2nd year that led his team to a championship? Now remove the other hall of famers from Magic and Birds teams and see how good they would have been those years.
Durant didn't get to 50 wins until his third year. Oh yeah and they drafted Harden 3rd overall that year. Went from 23 wins to 50. Made the finals his 4th year.
Lebron won 42 in year 2. 50 wins year 3 and made the playoffs, finals appearance in year 4. Cleveland lost Lebron, b/c they were incapable of attracting FA's, and they had no draft capital. They had the #10 pick after Lebron, and it was a bust. They had zero picks the following year, picked at #25 the next year, and had zero picks the following year. That's the 4 drafts after Lebron for Cleveland. So they completed wasted opportunities to get better through the draft, and it's probably the #1 reason why Lebron went to the Heat. Maybe if they had the chance to draft Igoudala and Danny Grainger the two years after drafting Lebron, or a Carl Landry or Glen Davis in year 4 of Lebron, the NBA would have been much different, but they didn't give themselves that chance. They made a bunch of stupid win now moves that never really worked.
It doesn't matter what we do in the draft or FA or trades, we should be a 50 win team for the foreseeable future by 2022. I expect to win around 45 games next year, regardless of what we do this offseason. We could run it back and that would be my expectation. We could trade Jrue for Wiggins and that would be my expectation.
Call me stupid, but i don't think Wiggins being swapped out for Jrue is that big of a deal as far as our success goes. Wiggins is 25 years old. Oladipo made his big jump at 25, after he was traded.
You have this assumption that i don't want to win.
I expect this team to get better every year.
Jrue is a role player. BI and Zion are the catalyst to our success for the next 5 years.
You thinking that Zion should be competing for a championship next year is just ridiculous. Name me another guy in his 2nd year that led his team to a championship? Now remove the other hall of famers from Magic and Birds teams and see how good they would have been those years.
Durant didn't get to 50 wins until his third year. Oh yeah and they drafted Harden 3rd overall that year. Went from 23 wins to 50. Made the finals his 4th year.
Lebron won 42 in year 2. 50 wins year 3 and made the playoffs, finals appearance in year 4. Cleveland lost Lebron, b/c they were incapable of attracting FA's, and they had no draft capital. They had the #10 pick after Lebron, and it was a bust. They had zero picks the following year, picked at #25 the next year, and had zero picks the following year. That's the 4 drafts after Lebron for Cleveland. So they completed wasted opportunities to get better through the draft, and it's probably the #1 reason why Lebron went to the Heat. Maybe if they had the chance to draft Igoudala and Danny Grainger the two years after drafting Lebron, or a Carl Landry or Glen Davis in year 4 of Lebron, the NBA would have been much different, but they didn't give themselves that chance. They made a bunch of stupid win now moves that never really worked.
It doesn't matter what we do in the draft or FA or trades, we should be a 50 win team for the foreseeable future by 2022. I expect to win around 45 games next year, regardless of what we do this offseason. We could run it back and that would be my expectation. We could trade Jrue for Wiggins and that would be my expectation.
Call me stupid, but i don't think Wiggins being swapped out for Jrue is that big of a deal as far as our success goes. Wiggins is 25 years old. Oladipo made his big jump at 25, after he was traded.
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 3:35 pm to TeddyPadillac
All I'm trying to say is that there are several players we can get besides Wiggins that are cheaper and would help us more in the future. Getting the #2 pick doesn't justify that fact. We already have so many draft picks and once again can still turn some of those into lottery picks without trading Jrue. If we trade Jrue it will be for a player or players that will contibute long term. Your plan is to take on Wiggins in order to land a solid player with the #2 pick. You haven't exactly said Wiggins will make us better and even said the opposite pretty much by saying it doesn't matter what he does because we aren't competing. Our FO will trade Jrue for the best players available NOT for the best draft pick available. That's all I'm saying. Lonzo? Redick? Yeah we may take draft picks for them but not Jrue, and not to lose cap space and flexibility in the process.
Edit: There are also players more expensive that can help more. I'd almost rather trade Jrue AND a 1st for a better player then trade Jrue for a 1st and worse player.
Edit: There are also players more expensive that can help more. I'd almost rather trade Jrue AND a 1st for a better player then trade Jrue for a 1st and worse player.
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 3:38 pm
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