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re: 2 former LSU students say Derrius Guice raped them

Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:57 am to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 6:57 am to
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Then report it to the police so it can actually be investigated as a crime.

This is about money. The burden of proof in any civil Title IX lawsuit or student conduct hearing is a preponderance of the evidence. The burden of proof in a criminal case is beyond a reasonable doubt. Based on the stories told by each woman in that article, they don't meet that requisite criminal burden of proof. So to preserve a potential monetary claim against LSU and Guice, they don't file a criminal complaint, yet have no problem suing everyone else they claim is responsible. If you're truly a victim, wouldn't you want to make sure Guice never did this to anyone else? Not these two.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423521 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:00 am to
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This is about money. The burden of proof in any civil Title IX lawsuit or student conduct hearing is a preponderance of the evidence. The burden of proof in a criminal case is beyond a reasonable doubt. Based on the stories told by each woman in that article, they don't meet that requisite criminal burden of proof. So to preserve a potential monetary claim against LSU and Guice, they don't file a criminal complaint, yet have no problem suing everyone else they claim is responsible. If you're truly a victim, wouldn't you want to make sure Guice never did this to anyone else? Not these two.


one didn't file a Title 9 action so that's irrelevant

the other apparently did and LSU did nothing. THAT is a HUGE problem, even if her claim is total BS. it's beyond the validity of the claim if no investigation occurred
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19390 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:35 am to
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This is about money. The burden of proof in any civil Title IX lawsuit or student conduct hearing is a preponderance of the evidence. The burden of proof in a criminal case is beyond a reasonable doubt. Based on the stories told by each woman in that article, they don't meet that requisite criminal burden of proof. So to preserve a potential monetary claim against LSU and Guice, they don't file a criminal complaint, yet have no problem suing everyone else they claim is responsible. If you're truly a victim, wouldn't you want to make sure Guice never did this to anyone else? Not these two.

I know why they didn't report it to police it just makes me skeptical it actually happened the way they say since they had no problem telling people (such as random players) about it not being consensual but didn't go to the police.
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