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re: I have a quiet envy of religious people

Posted on 6/24/20 at 8:59 am to
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 8:59 am to
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Moreover, there’s no need to ever fret that those we love who didn’t believe are in a hell somewhere which is easily the most psychologically abusive concept ever conceived by humans.
There is nothing “psychologically abusive” about the truth. The doctrine of hell is intrinsically tied to the doctrine of God’s justice. Punishment for what we deserve isn’t any more “psychology abusive” than telling someone they will get the death penalty for murder.

Your concern must rest more on what you think we deserve, but that is either an ignorance of God’s holy character and our sinful natures or a rejection of Biblical truth in unbelief.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 8:05 am to
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There is nothing “psychologically abusive” about the truth. The doctrine of hell is intrinsically tied to the doctrine of God’s justice. Punishment for what we deserve isn’t any more “psychology abusive” than telling someone they will get the death penalty for murder.


There’s no evidence whatsoever that such a place exists, or even that it could exist. In the absence of any actual evidence of truth it absolutely is a manipulative and psychologically abusive concept. Comparing to any punishment set forth in the realm of physical reality which can be readily observed and demonstrably proven is nothing more than theological hackery.

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Your concern must rest more on what you think we deserve, but that is either an ignorance of God’s holy character and our sinful natures or a rejection of Biblical truth in unbelief.


Again, there’s just no evidence it exists. Even if we accepted the circular logic of the Bible serving as evidence of Hell, the modern Christian view of Hell is based almost entirely on two non-Biblical sources: The apocalypse of Peter and Dante’s “Divine Comedy”
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