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homemade garden soil
Posted on 6/20/20 at 10:49 am
Posted on 6/20/20 at 10:49 am
what’s your recipe?
I’ve been using 1/3 each shredded bark, peat moss and compost with a little mason sand mixed in. It’s pretty good for raised beds and pots but I’m thinking in a ground bed I might want something with a little clay in it
I’ve been using 1/3 each shredded bark, peat moss and compost with a little mason sand mixed in. It’s pretty good for raised beds and pots but I’m thinking in a ground bed I might want something with a little clay in it
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:30 am to cgrand
For large containers, 15 to 30 gallon, 1/2 peat moss + 1/2 “garden soil” (finely ground composted tree bark/limb with sand already mixed in it, what retail plant nurseries sell in bulk). I’ll add some dolomitic lime to raise pH, Osmocote, and trace elements. Seems to work fine for every thing I’ve grown in it
Basically a recipe I got from the LSU AgCenter for growing container blueberries. But I raise the amount of lime in the recipe for non-acid plants. This is the recipe from the AgCenter for container blueberries for a 15 gal container: 1/2 peat moss + 1/2 soil conditioner + 4 oz Osmocote (16-4-8) + 2 oz dolomictic limestone + 1 oz trace elements.
Basically a recipe I got from the LSU AgCenter for growing container blueberries. But I raise the amount of lime in the recipe for non-acid plants. This is the recipe from the AgCenter for container blueberries for a 15 gal container: 1/2 peat moss + 1/2 soil conditioner + 4 oz Osmocote (16-4-8) + 2 oz dolomictic limestone + 1 oz trace elements.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 9:02 am
Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:57 am to CrawDude
thanks!
I guess the bark/compost/sand mix I’ve been using is roughly similar to the garden mix. I’ll mix in some osmocote next batch. I do have an old concrete livestock watering trough filled with that garden mix I can harvest from as well
my place used to be part of a dairy farm
I guess the bark/compost/sand mix I’ve been using is roughly similar to the garden mix. I’ll mix in some osmocote next batch. I do have an old concrete livestock watering trough filled with that garden mix I can harvest from as well
my place used to be part of a dairy farm
Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:31 pm to cgrand
Your mix sounds to be a good one to me. I was doing a lot of landscaping at the house and I’d pick 1 yard truck load of “garden soil” at a time and often I’d have some left over and that’s why I started using it with the peat moss, but nuggets are good as well and somtimes I’ll use them.
And to your other question, when I first started vegetable gardening in raised beds at my current house (which was also dairy pasture land in the past) I’d also purchase some river silt to mix with compost, etc. but now with the potential torpedograss issue in river silt, I’m too paranoid to take the chance possibly introducing torpedograss into my yard. So at least for me, I’m just not using supplemental mineral soil, but fear of introducing torpedograss is the sole reason.
And to your other question, when I first started vegetable gardening in raised beds at my current house (which was also dairy pasture land in the past) I’d also purchase some river silt to mix with compost, etc. but now with the potential torpedograss issue in river silt, I’m too paranoid to take the chance possibly introducing torpedograss into my yard. So at least for me, I’m just not using supplemental mineral soil, but fear of introducing torpedograss is the sole reason.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 9:06 am
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:47 pm to cgrand
I must be the only person left that plants things in the ground. My garden is as good as anybody's I know and I simply use 13-13-13 fertilizer and turn all my soil every fall.
I use pine straw I rake from under my pine trees for mulch too.
I use pine straw I rake from under my pine trees for mulch too.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 6/22/20 at 9:53 am to cgrand
Equal parts of crustacean meal, kelp meal, neem cake/karanja cake, basalt/glacial rock dust, gypsum, oyster shell flour.
Apply at a rate of 2 cups per cubic foot or approximately 1/4 cup per gallon of the mix when mixing soil.
Soil mix..
1/3 Sphagnum peat moss (I actually use coco coir)
1/3 Aeration amendment (pumice, lava rock, perlite, vermiculite, rice hulls, etc..)
1/3 High quality compost and/or earthworm castings (I use a 2:1:1 ratio of compost, leaf mold, worm shite)
2 cups of malted barley (blend 1 cup into a powder then mix into soil, the other cup will be top dressed at a rate of 1/4 cup of malted barley each week starting in week 3-4.You will want to blend the barley right before applying it.
I also add mycorrhizae and a humate to this mix. Let it sit a couple months... and it's go time. I occasionally will water with a compost tea, but that's it.
Apply at a rate of 2 cups per cubic foot or approximately 1/4 cup per gallon of the mix when mixing soil.
Soil mix..
1/3 Sphagnum peat moss (I actually use coco coir)
1/3 Aeration amendment (pumice, lava rock, perlite, vermiculite, rice hulls, etc..)
1/3 High quality compost and/or earthworm castings (I use a 2:1:1 ratio of compost, leaf mold, worm shite)
2 cups of malted barley (blend 1 cup into a powder then mix into soil, the other cup will be top dressed at a rate of 1/4 cup of malted barley each week starting in week 3-4.You will want to blend the barley right before applying it.
I also add mycorrhizae and a humate to this mix. Let it sit a couple months... and it's go time. I occasionally will water with a compost tea, but that's it.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:02 am to MoarKilometers
whats the barley malt do? never heard of that before
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:10 am to cgrand
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whats the barley malt do? never heard of that before
Here's the abstract on the research...
40 Fungi and 16 strains of bacteria, isolated from the grains of three cultivars of matting-grade barley (Kymppi, Pokko and Kustaa, of 1990 harvest), were screened for the production of the plant hormones gibberellic acid (GA3, abscisic acid (ABA) and indole-3-acetic acid (IAA). Four fungal strains were found capable of GA3 production and four of ABA production. IAA production was common among both fungi (58% of strains active) and bacteria (88% of strains active). To get an estimate of the physiological significance of the presence of plant hormone producing microbes, the plant hormone production per microbial unit in the liquid growth media of the cultured organisms was weighed against the microbial counts and the endogenous hormone concentrations of barley grains. It was concluded that bacterial IAA production could be of significance in imbibed grains. This presupposes, however, that the conditions be ideal for the propagation of the active species and also, for the production of IAA by those same species and lastly, that similar production occurs in vivo as well as in vitro . Microbial GA3 and ABA production, on the other hand, were estimated to occur in negligent amounts.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:18 am to MoarKilometers
The theory behind what I use is that you can recycle the soil for years... with only needing to top dress the nutrient/mineral mixture. Soil microbiology takes care of breaking things down. Some (well educated) dirty hippies from the PNW have been putting in work on this for years. I'd link their name, but it all comes back to a cash crop I don't feel like specifically discussing on this board lol. This mix works great on everything though.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 10:20 am
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:48 am to cgrand
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whats the barley malt do? never heard of that before
By product of breweries - beer primarily. High protein organic “waste” material. If I had access to it, I’d use it the garden.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:59 am to CrawDude
interesting
theres a brewery not far from my house, i think i'll ask them what they do with their spent malt.
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theres a brewery not far from my house, i think i'll ask them what they do with their spent malt.
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 5:30 pm to cgrand
Be aware that spent barley malt smells worse than a wagon full of shite-covered human corpses bloated in the sun after a day or two.
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