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re: America/LA Prison Population. Explain these numbers in as non-partisan way as possible
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:28 pm to sgallo3
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:28 pm to sgallo3
As someone who works within the system, until we move away from incarceration to more rehabilitation for drug users the rates will remain as they are.
To be clear I’m not advocating taking it easy on violent crimes or the dealers, but we incarcerate way to many people who are simply addicted and then we put them in a place where it is easier to get drugs than on the street (their words not mine). They get out and then the cycle repeats.
Also that second graph coincides with the ramp up on the “war on drugs.”
To be clear I’m not advocating taking it easy on violent crimes or the dealers, but we incarcerate way to many people who are simply addicted and then we put them in a place where it is easier to get drugs than on the street (their words not mine). They get out and then the cycle repeats.
Also that second graph coincides with the ramp up on the “war on drugs.”
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:31 pm to TigernMS12
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To be clear I’m not advocating taking it easy on violent crimes or the dealers, but we incarcerate way to many people who are simply addicted and then we put them in a place where it is easier to get drugs than on the street (their words not mine).
But who is going to look out for the judges, clerks, lawyers, sheriffs, prisons, bail bondsmen, medical staff, govt workers, and corrections officers who will lose their jobs if prison demand gets severely cut, arrests aren't being made, convictions don't happen, etc?
Those folks will not go quietly into that good night.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:34 pm to TigernMS12
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As someone who works within the system, until we move away from incarceration to more rehabilitation for drug users the rates will remain as they are.
To be clear I’m not advocating taking it easy on violent crimes or the dealers, but we incarcerate way to many people who are simply addicted and then we put them in a place where it is easier to get drugs than on the street (their words not mine). They get out and then the cycle repeats.
Why go after dealers if they're not committing other crimes? It seems you're still very pro drug war.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:28 am to TigernMS12
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incarcerate way to many people who are simply addicted
It's pretty hard to land in PRISON and "addiction" isn't a crime. These people commit crimes relative to their addiction that land them in jail and after several "second chances" and court-ordered rehab/counseling, their continued crimes and an extended rap sheet land them in prison. Also, ending the war on drugs wouldn't end the violence relative to the drug trade. Ripoffs, retaliations, drive bys, robberies, and people freaking the frick out on dope (committing crimes) would still be occurring. Acting like rehab is some magical cure all unicorn is joke. That shite only works with ALOT of money and resources and the offender has to be 100 percent committed.
And to the guy saying criminalizing plants was the catalyst, that's fake news. It is very rare for Marijuana to be the sole reason for someone to be sent to prison. Would have to have multiple convictions and an extended rap sheet with other crimes nowadays.
I'm for Marijuana legalization but the argument is much like the BLM bullshite, take a few overreaching anecdotal cases and extend them out over an entire population to "prove" your point.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 7:46 am
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