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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:59 am to Anaximander
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:59 am to Anaximander
I upvoted your post because it is largely correct. However, I disagree about statues honoring the likes of Robert E Lee. While I think Lee was a good man, he nonetheless fought on the wrong side in a moral war. I don’t think Lee should be disparaged, but I also don’t see the reason to memorialize him. If we’re going to memorialize people from that era it should be folks like Lincoln and Grant. Or how about southerners who fought for the north on principled grounds?
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:14 am to Penrod
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However, I disagree about statues honoring the likes of Robert E Lee. While I think Lee was a good man, he nonetheless fought on the wrong side in a moral war. I don’t think Lee should be disparaged, but I also don’t see the reason to memorialize him. If we’re going to memorialize people from that era it should be folks like Lincoln and Grant. Or how about southerners who fought for the north on principled grounds?
That's just the thing. Despicable people (and I don't necessarily think Robert E Lee was a despicable person) will be memorialized throughout history due to the dominant thinking of the time. As thinking progresses or changes people will realize certain people weren't so great, or that they simply had flaws.
It doesn't mean those memorials should be removed though IMO. They are still an important part of history. A reminder, if you will, of what things were. It's an educational piece.
Progressives aren't interested in only the Confederacy, and they've shown that. It will turn into any part of "white" history they don't agree with. Giving in to these demands creates a slippery slope.
I've traveled to many countries around the world and I enjoy history. Some great historical monuments would be lost if we abided by this Progressive thinking.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:24 am to Penrod
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I upvoted your post because it is largely correct. However, I disagree about statues honoring the likes of Robert E Lee. While I think Lee was a good man, he nonetheless fought on the wrong side in a moral war. I don’t think Lee should be disparaged, but I also don’t see the reason to memorialize him. If we’re going to memorialize people from that era it should be folks like Lincoln and Grant. Or how about southerners who fought for the north on principled grounds?
Did Lee just live from 1861-65? Maybe he actually fought FOR the United States in another war. Perhaps his skills as an American officer led to the defeat of the Mexican army during the Mexican-American War. Had the Mexican army defeated our troops, would they have marched on the southern US? Would that not be enough to memorialize General Lee? Does one infamous act negate all the positive contributions of a man? If so, why are we memorializing George Floyd? He held a gun to a pregnant woman's belly.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:26 am to Penrod
quote:The monuments to Confederate leaders were (generally) erected by veterans or the children of veterans of that war. These people had a direct personal connection to the folks on the monuments. The monuments need to be considered in this context.
I don’t think Lee should be disparaged, but I also don’t see the reason to memorialize him. If we’re going to memorialize people from that era it should be folks like Lincoln and Grant. Or how about southerners who fought for the north on principled grounds?
Also, no one is advocating today building new monuments to Confederate leaders or even Union leaders, for that matter.
We don’t really do that much monument building anymore.
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