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re: Truck Drivers Say They Won’t Deliver To Cities with Defunded Police Departments

Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:16 am to
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:16 am to
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This thread is about human behavior, not technological advancement. I don’t believe any conservative participating in this discussion is arguing against the idea that technology can be improved or perfected over time.

Yet no amount of technological progress will change the human equation. What conservatives believe is that human behavior — unlike technology— is fixed and immutable.


I mean more economically.

How will our view of economic responsibility change when a significant percentage of people are simply unemployable due to automation?

For the last 200 years (since rapid industrialization in the US) jobs have been consistently plentiful so requiring that people gain meaningful employment to sustain themselves was a noble social value. But when that changes, how do we adapt that value?
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:38 am to
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How will our view of economic responsibility change when a significant percentage of people are simply unemployable due to automation?


Automation has existed before any of us were born, I hate to tell you but the machines don't fix themselves.

Not even sure what your point is to be honest, you act like automation is something new, its not... most of the huge gains from automation have already occurred prior to the 2000s. At this point, automation is down to squeezing the last few percent... without true AI and to me what is being done today is not AI, its still pattern matching... the vast majority of the automation has been in place for decades.

Like most millennial you have a narrow vision of how things work in context. Which is why you have these nutbags that thought solar and wind could ever take over the grid in the U.S. .... its fantasy land.

Even the dumb of the dumb (Michael Moore) are starting to figure it out.

LINK

I literally had millennial trying to convince me (a decade+) all this solar/wind shite was going to take over in a decade... I told them not in my lifetime (35-50 years) and maybe never.

Its hard to have discussions with people like you as you are ignorant of how things current work, have no desire to learn, and are narrow minded in believing you just install an app.

Its the learn to code stupid mentality.


Every month for literally two decades you have a new article on NEW battery technology that is going to revolutionize energy storage.... products never come out, and they move on to the next thing.

You should see the Popular Science articles from the 60s talking about cold fusion right around the corner.
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 9:47 am
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16740 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:45 am to
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For the last 200 years (since rapid industrialization in the US) jobs have been consistently plentiful so requiring that people gain meaningful employment to sustain themselves was a noble social value. But when that changes, how do we adapt that value?




This sounds like a lead in a moron would use to wax poetically about UBI. Can't imagine how painfully stupid you are.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119638 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:49 am to
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How will our view of economic responsibility change when a significant percentage of people are simply unemployable due to automation?



Now take into account the social unrest that these autonomous trucks will have to traverse through. Or at least factor that into your equation and truck design.

Do you understand how easy it would be to "derail" these trucks on the interstate, especially with defuned police deparments? A kid could do it.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
18213 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:27 am to
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How will our view of economic responsibility change when a significant percentage of people are simply unemployable due to automation?

For the last 200 years (since rapid industrialization in the US) jobs have been consistently plentiful so requiring that people gain meaningful employment to sustain themselves was a noble social value. But when that changes, how do we adapt that value?


This is an age-old argument that history has proven wrong time and time again. When automation or technology eliminates a job, other opportunities invariably arise that create employment for the person displaced by the automation since all human wants and desires can never be satisfied.

When automobiles replaced horse buggies, buggy whip makers faced the prospect of losing their livelihood because the demand for horse whips plummeted. Yet that merely created opportunities for buggy-whip makers to pursue other economic endeavors.

Again, technology changes but our humanity — what makes us human — is constant. Technological advances will not ultimately thwart human ingenuity and humanity’s inborn desire to create and find a purpose in this world.

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