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re: We Turned Our Backs on God

Posted on 6/11/20 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 12:38 pm to
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Again, this is entirely self-fulfilling and only applies if you already believe in god as creator.
Incorrect. It applies whether you believe it or not. God either exists or He doesn't. Believing He doesn't exist when He does doesn't change what He has done in history or what He requires of us. It's precisely why Christians preach the Gospel to unbelievers (non-Christians); we realize the reality of the situation even for those who don't believe it to be true.

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It also doesn’t change the fact that humans have changed this message (meaning the Bible) constantly over time. Even taking out the exclusions of certain texts from the Bible and the multitude of doctrinal changes that have occurred within all sects of Christianity, the mere act of translating the ‘message’ over the course of 2,000 or so years has inherently distorted and modified its content
Sounds like you don't understand translation or transmission.

There are thousands of manuscripts (fragments and whole sections) that are used to translate the Bible going back to the first century. When an inconsistency exists, it's known and noted, and the vast majority of the inconsistencies stem from misspellings, having a letter in the wrong place, or word coming in front of or behind another; the meaning is known and understood with relative few major changes/inconsistencies within the various documents.

The sheer volume of manuscript evidence we have actually works in our favor for knowing with certainty that we have the complete word of God. Ever check the footnotes of an English Bible? There's a whole discipline devoted to this topic.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 12:42 pm to
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with certainty that we have the complete word of God.


When did it become complete, in your estimation?

Certainly not at the time god would have relayed the message or at the time the texts were written because both of those things far predate the Bible. Does a council of humans meeting centuries after the fact retroactively complete the word of god?
This post was edited on 6/11/20 at 12:44 pm
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