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re: CBS & USA Today Articles - "not good things (are coming to LSU)"

Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:01 am to
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:01 am to
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Breaking NCAA rules to gain a competitive advantage isn't anything close to robbing a fricking bank.

Nobody said it was (except you). The analogy is about ignoring what is in plain sight (FBI wiretap) and convincing yourself it means nothing. Either you are a dumbass or you are intentionally twisting my point because you do not have a coherent argument. I'm thinking the latter. Please try to come up with a reasonable argument or just stay out of the conversation. The fact is, you have no excuse for unethical behavior/cheating except to say, "everyone does it" and "we must cheat in order to win." This is an extremely sad commentary on the state of your character. I hope you are never in a position to influence young people.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93872 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:12 am to
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Nobody said it was (except you). The analogy is about ignoring what is in plain sight (FBI wiretap) and convincing yourself it means nothing.

No. You're analogy is attempting to vilify people by saying that they would be bystanders and condone a crime because they don't share your views on breaking NCAA laws. It's dumb.

I'm not saying it means nothing. It also doesn't mean that Wade necessarily paid any player to play for LSU. If you want to bring breaking the law into this, then let's talk about innocent until proven guilty. I know you're gonna bring "the NCAA doesn't need the same level of evidence as the law" into this, so don't bring up breaking the law.
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The fact is, you have no excuse for unethical behavior/cheating except to say, "everyone does it" and "we must cheat in order to win." This is an extremely sad commentary on the state of your character. I hope you are never in a position to influence young people.

You think these players aren't already aware of how this goes? They've been exposed to it for years before they ever even get to college in AAU. You just don't understand how collegiate athletics works. This isn't a Will Wade problem. This is an NCAA problem because they've allowed it to get this bad. You either have to provide extra benefits or lose. This is why schools like Cal Poly, Stephen F. Austin, Creighton, St. Bonaventure, etc have been put on probation. Everyone is doing it on some level. That's the reality. You can stand on you're high horse and scream about your morals all day, but the NCAA is corrupt and that's just the way it is.
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
1337 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:41 am to
As far as we know, there is no evidence of actual money or extra benefits being received by Smart or Reid. If you don't have evidence, please stop posting. This has been already been hashed and rehashed.

Perhaps Wade was just talking BS to a shady recruiting intermediary to maintain a relationship. There has been no proof of illegal benefits related to this conversation as far as anyone has shown!!

Personally, I feel that the NCAA, corporations (shoe companies, TV networks, etc.) college administrators,and coaches making billions of dollars off of these unpaid athletes is the biggest "crime." The reason that so much money is paid for the best recruits at many levels is based on their value to the system. This is not a secret. If one believes the best players are not being paid to play at colleges all over the country they are naive or lying to themselves. I would not be upset or ashamed if LSU is doing what other institutions are doing to compete.
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