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re: Body cam footage of police interactions with Ahmaud Aubrey

Posted on 5/20/20 at 11:05 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 11:05 am to
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Which explains them both having loaded weapons, and one was sitting in the bed of a truck. One of the first lessons in gun use I was taught was that you don't chamber a round and take off the safety until you intend to fire it.



In your head, whats your confidence level the McMichaels saw themselves holding him at gunpoint and never foresaw shooting him? I'm guessing it's quite high.

There are very few people in the country who possess the racial animus to contemplate, much less conduct, a lynching. It's extremely uncommon, and it's simply not very likely that the McMichaels are in that camp. That's just playing the odds, and not even factoring in the significant evidence that this was the product of misguided and reckless vigilantism.

Few people dispute that these guys are stupid, reckless and a disgrace to everyone who wants the liberty to use firearms to defend themselves and their property. So applying reasonable standards of firearm use to them is a misapplication IMO.

Keep in mind that none of the above removes the relevance of racial bias/prejudice, or the other injustices you discuss. But it does, IMO, remove the most core component of "lynching" - and use of that label is counterproductive to a socially meaningful conversation about this case.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99604 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 11:08 am to
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Few people dispute that these guys are stupid, reckless and a disgrace to everyone who wants the liberty to use firearms to defend themselves and their property. So applying reasonable standards of firearm use to them is a misapplication IMO.



My issue with this reasoning is one of them is a former, long-time law enforcement officer. Who was actually trained how to use a firearm beyond your typical concealed carry classes. I think it's completely reasonable to expect at least one of them to understand reasonable standards of firearm use.

It's kind of like the argument that there's no way for them to know they can't make a citizen's arrest without proof of a felony (it has to be a felony to give chase in Georgia). One of them has intimate knowledge of what is legal and what isn't. That argument just doesn't hold up knowing that.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 11:18 am to
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this was the product of misguided and reckless vigilantism.



Yes, like lynchings in the 40's and 50's.
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