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re: I finally realized the truth about Affirmative Action

Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:39 pm to
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Much of my thinking has been informed on this issue by Dr. Sowell's writing. Certainly, I think folks should be giving thought as to how to open doors for folks, but as the entire concept of Affirmative Action has matured it just continues to reinforce the notion that blacks are inferior, fragile, inadequate and need special assistance. 



My only issue with Sowell is that he comes off as being dismissive of history of black suppression in education prior and during the Civil Rights era. Unlike modern day progressives, MLK and other black leaders were actually fighting against REAL Racism and discriminatory practices.

I do agree with him in that the methods that tool post CRA 1964 were ineffective in many areas, particularly domestic life. We should have held on to strong communities while taking advantage of the much deserved liberties. But I'm going to save that dance for another time.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 3:41 pm to
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My only issue with Sowell is that he comes off as being dismissive of history of black suppression in education prior and during the Civil Rights era.


You need to read some of his books like I have.
Sowell dismisses aff action due to mismatching. Black students who could do well at U. Texas get scholarships to Harvard and fail. Since UT can't get enough black students they admit those who would do well at La. Tech. They fail.

On pre-MLK life Sowell lived it. You didn't. He writes that black people actually got married before having children. Black kids didn't commit crime or do drugs. His high school classmates became successful. That school now graduates people who go to prison.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89677 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 4:56 pm to
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I do agree with him in that the methods that tool post CRA 1964 were ineffective in many areas, particularly domestic life.


I don't think he takes the position they were ineffective. They were counterproductive (and AA was part of that, particularly as it dragged on). That's my position, as well.

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We should have held on to strong communities while taking advantage of the much deserved liberties.


The end result of the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s was the destruction of the black family, the black community, the "old school" black values and tradition in exchange for the current state of affairs.
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