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re: Hospitals around the nation are seeing a 41% increase in non-covid mortality

Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:39 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36571 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:39 am to
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Well someone else posted a thread the other day with data that said heart attacks, strokes, accidents, etc are all down so sounds like conflicting info


I’ve seen COVID deniers say overall deaths are way down, and now they are saying that deaths from everything else but COVID are way up. It’s hard to keep up.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 8:41 am
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2103 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:42 am to
Doesn't matter, they'll all be counted as China Flu deaths anyway.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:04 am to
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I’ve seen COVID deniers


Oh lord..

What is this propaganda?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20085 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 1:01 pm to
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I’ve seen COVID deniers say overall deaths are way down, and now they are saying that deaths from everything else but COVID are way up. It’s hard to keep up.


Let me help you. We are discussing Mortality rates, reported by hospitals.

That means that people that actually go to the hospital for these conditions are dying at a higher rate than normal.

Now if overall deaths related to these conditions have decreased, it is reasonable to infer that the virus is actually cannibalizing those deaths. People that would have otherwise died from other causes have died from the virus, whether that be from weakened immune systems caused by the condition or even misreported causes of death.

The numbers not adding up is nothing new. This virus that was originally scary because of how fast it spreads has made its way to less than .5% of Americans in 3+ months. This caused us to worry about overwhelming the hospital systems, which by any available metric has yet to happen anywhere.

All that being said, for all of this hysteria, wouldn’t you expect at least a material increase in overall deaths in the US? Wouldn’t you expect massive amounts of aide being sent around the world to countries that don’t even have a healthcare system to overwhelm?

Draw your own conclusions with the information available.
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