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$175 Billion of the $310 Billion has already been allocated in the 2nd batch of the PPP

Posted on 5/3/20 at 10:35 am
Posted by Whodatforlife21
Big Easy
Member since Apr 2013
1966 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 10:35 am
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This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 10:36 am
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46269 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:29 am to
The fact that there is still money left at this point is surprising
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47167 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:42 am to
Yeah def.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20648 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 1:27 pm to
Got an email from CPA that it is TAXABLE INCOME. IRS getting ready to do an IRS.
Posted by Whodatforlife21
Big Easy
Member since Apr 2013
1966 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 1:51 pm to
I think we all expected the PPP to be taxable
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4645 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 3:02 pm to
No way this will be taxable income from the debt forgiveness. Defeats the whole purpose.

Totally get not being able to write off the expenses that ppp was used for, but taxing it on its face amount won’t happen.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53594 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

Got an email from CPA that it is TAXABLE INCOME. IRS getting ready to do an IRS.


I imagine it is if you aren't forgiven and it turns into a low interest loan
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4645 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

I imagine it is if you aren't forgiven and it turns into a low interest loan


Very true and should be in this case.
Posted by Spock
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
1176 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 5:01 pm to
Your CPA is wrong. But I’m guessing you just misunderstood his email.
Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
3024 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:24 pm to
Not income, but cannot deduct those expenses that were used to forgive the loan.

I think this will be challenged, and Congress may amend the CARES act before it gets to that point.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20648 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:48 pm to
And the email said the CPAs are going to lobby for that change
Posted by Spock
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
1176 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:18 pm to
There are already provisions in the tax code that disallow the deduction of expenses from tax free income. I don’t see them making an exception for this, especially after already announcing it. But that still doesn’t make the loan taxable.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40197 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:32 pm to
Either your CPA is wrong or you misunderstand the e-mail.

The loan forgiveness isn’t taxed. But you can’t deduct the related expenses. Which makes complete sense.

Now some people want to be able to deduct the expenses as well including some in Congress so they may well pass a new law to allow that.

The whole point of PPP was for the government to pay employees. What we have today and what people expect is far different.

The PPP was NEVER meant to be a windfall or honestly even support business. It was about taking care of employees, and if that meant some businesses ride out the storm, all the better.

AICPA is asking for a double dip, this will be one of the few times I don’t support them. Our job as CPAs is to call balls and strikes. Requests for rule changes need to come from small businesses and the chambers of commerce that are supposed to advocate for them.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6071 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:24 pm to
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