re: If we finish 8 - 4

No I would not jump all over Les if LSU went 8-4. Looking at LSU's schedule what might be disappointing is if we lost to say, Troy. Between UGA, UF, Aubbie, Bama, S. Carolina and at Arkansas, there's a number of tough games we play.

Les has a National Title and 2 other bowl wins including another BCS win under his belt. We have to replace some key starters and have unproven quarterbacks. Nobody is mentioning the dual defensive cooridinator system to replace Pelini (abiet it will be the same system).

LSU has gotten rid of some riff raff under Les and for the most part the drama seems to be behind us (let's hope!). Also, no more 'is he going to Michigan' rumors for awhile.

Look at Fulmer and how long he's lived off of winning that one national title years ago. I think no matter what happens this season, Les will be fine.