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re: Local ER doc (South LA) here to answer your COVID-19 questions

Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4411 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:34 pm to
We received some more vents. Basically transport/pandemic vents. But its something atleast.
Posted by Red Drum
Coast
Member since Sep 2007
1793 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:35 pm to
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My wife who works in the PACU is getting transferred into the ICU to treat CV patients and she’s scared shitless....and I’m beginning to be.

anything she can ask/demand before her new shift starts on Monday?




No. Not really. But don't be scared. This isn't Chernobyl where the ICU is the only place that it resides. It's everywhere. It's in the community. If yall are middle ageed or younger and healthy, kids or no kids, you will be fine.
Drop off groceries to your parents (maybe her parents) and relax.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:35 pm to
I actually thought in my mind this virus is like a caricature of the OT when I started seeing the case data from south la

It attacks boomers, the overweight, and black males
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4411 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:36 pm to
We are fricked right now tho. Basically we do not have experienced icu nurses to take all these patients. Having to train med surg nurses and its bad. NPs and CRNAs are gonna start taking patients.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96821 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:37 pm to
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Our 5 most recent have all been middle aged, black, females.


yeh. Overweight and AA is the most common by far, but more males than female as well.

At least last Friday’s numbers. I’ll have my new batch of data this Friday
Posted by Red Drum
Coast
Member since Sep 2007
1793 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:37 pm to
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We use it all the time. Long term for lupus and other connective tissue diseases, sarcoidosis, and recently for severe osteoarthritis. In the OP's defense, he's an ER doc and has never prescribed it or managed a pt on it.

True, I stay up to date with my field, and with toxicology. It may be getting more press in the tox world just due to the situation
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3031 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:38 pm to
So, I have the mother of all pre-conditions (T2 diabetic), with none of her sisters (not obese, no hypertension, no history of immune deficiency).

With 41% of the deaths in LA linked to diabetes, are they talking “uncontrolled” diabetics as is typical? Or are people like me equally fricked....
Posted by Red Drum
Coast
Member since Sep 2007
1793 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:39 pm to
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UMC is using bipap more which is working



Prone, CPAP, half dose HFNC with mask... all maneuvers that should be tried prior to mechanical vent if possible. It's just coming around to trying these in BR.
Posted by Chipand2Putts
trembling hills
Member since Apr 2012
1378 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:40 pm to
Don’t really have enough info on pregnant women... but here is current prevailing wisdom.
1. Pregnancy is an immunocompromised state, so technically would be more susceptible to infection. However, we haven’t seen that pregnant women do any worse with this compared to their non-pregnant counterparts (as opposed to influenza).
2. We have not seen that this virus caused any birth defects (as opposed to Zika).
3. We don’t have any compelling evidence that the virus is vertically transmitted in Utero, but transmission can certainly occur from mother to new born after delivery.
4. The primary concern for pregnant women should be prevention...staying at home, hand hygiene, not touching face. As of now, we are not recommending pregnant healthcare workers should stop working, but that is subject to change. We are recommending stopping work at 37 wks, to hopefully ensure 2wks of isolation prior to delivery.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17918 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:41 pm to
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I actually thought in my mind this virus is like a caricature of the OT when I started seeing the case data from south la

It attacks boomers, the overweight, and black males

Omg ?? perfect
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4411 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:41 pm to
High rate of atelectasis and high flow not working. I proned tons of pts in last week. Have not seen great results. Also proning people not vented has not seemed to work.
Posted by Dustydubs
Member since Mar 2020
483 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:42 pm to
Any stories or ideas on exactly how people are catching this? I’m washing my hands raw and distancing and decontaminating every thing. But how easily is it transmitted?? Is it like I walk into a room and “Bammm” Covidality! Or is it actually touching?
Posted by Red Drum
Coast
Member since Sep 2007
1793 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:42 pm to
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41, obese, OSA, but relatively active. We’re I to contract the disease, what could I do to mitigate the effects?



Expel as much secretions as possible, even if you think cough is dry, its not. Lay on stomach, head down. Cough it out.
If u have to go to hospital, demand hydroxychl/azithro early, continue laying on stomach, allow intubation as last resort.

To be clear, once admitted, I lose contact. Maybe some RT's or intensivests can weigh in.
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4411 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:43 pm to
Stays in air for 1-3 hours in a room I would say.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36818 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:43 pm to
Are you finding it difficult to move pts from the er to an icu bed? Are vents hard to come by?
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4411 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:44 pm to
Yes moving from bed to bed is almost impossible to keep them from popping off the vent. Vents not hard to come by... yet
Posted by Red Drum
Coast
Member since Sep 2007
1793 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:46 pm to
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Have you heard anything on how this is with pregnant women? My wife is 33 weeks now


From OBGyn:
"As far as we now, does not cross placenta, so as long as mom does not get severely ill, baby should do fine. The neonates that contract it immediately after birth tend to ultimately do okay."
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4411 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:46 pm to
To be clear, if yall are having trouble breathing at home, by all means lay on your stomach. It can help your oxygenation. Just the people I take care of are sick as shite. Almost all are going into kidney failure requiring dialysis.
Posted by Red Drum
Coast
Member since Sep 2007
1793 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:47 pm to
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Legit question- what about diagnosed hypertension treated with ACE inhibitor? Clinically overweight but not obese.


Keep taking ACE-I. Assuming less than 60, should be fine.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36818 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:47 pm to
Are they able to get icu beds or are they hanging out in the er beds for a while?

Basically are hospitals full?
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:48 pm
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