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Posted on 3/29/20 at 1:06 pm
Posted by rintintin
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/29/20 at 1:06 pm
Just bought a house and would like a considerable Wifi upgrade than what I've been using, which is simply a Nighthawk AC1750 wireless router powering everything. It has been suitable for our current living needs, consistently giving us speeds of 100+ mbps, but it goes in and out frequently.

I know that could be due to a number of things, but I'm tired of dealing with internet issues and would like to setup my new home with a full-proof network.

The new area I'm moving, Spectrum offers Gig speeds which I plan to get, and I'd like to buy some good hardware that can run it to it's full potential. After reading a few threads here and around the interwebz I'm leaning towards Ubiquiti products.

My current plan is to buy the Unifi Dream Machine and a AP-AC Pro, to put under my outdoor kitchen area.

The house isn't huge, only about 1,700 sq feet, and it sits on about an acre lot.

Does this sound suitable?

TIA
Posted by humblepie
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:31 am to
That would work great as long as you are ok doing a little setup.

For your size house any of the consumer mesh systems would work great as well.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:19 am to
I use 2x UAP AC Pro at home and the same at work. Coverage is fantastic in a 4000sqft 2 story environment and ~7000sqft single story as well. At home, my units aren't so ideally placed due to the Wife Approval Factor. One sits on top of a shelf. The other simply on a shelf. Coverage is great. The lot is small (0.25 acre), but the back and front yard has great coverage. There is a side yard that is basically as far as possible from both APs. At the edge of the yard, through 2 interior walls and a brick wall, I get a weak signal and dropped a meeting's audio last week while walking around. It's not exactly a part of the yard I go to, but I'd estimate it's 30 yards from the router (straight line)
In the office, I'm properly mounted on 10ft ceilings in wide-open spaces. WiFi there is essentially perfect except for in my furthest exam room which has to run through about 4 metal walls the way it's set up. There are times that I have reduced responsiveness on web pages, but this is intermittent. WiFi printers in the far corners of the office were not getting reliable signal. Office staff's cell phones seem to do fine, though.

I would imagine a single UAP or just the dream machine would be fine for the 1700sqft house, but if you're going through halls that twist/turn to a corner bedroom, so long as that corner is relatively near your 2nd AP, i would imagine you would be happy with it.


Speedwise, you aren't going to get 1gbps down/up. If you have a single device with an optimized router that is line of sight, you'll get 800mbps+. But as soon as any 802.11 b/g/n is on the network, your benchmarks will plummet. That said, the overall performance will work fine, but if you're one that wants your speedtest numbers to look great, that's where the numbers come from. So what I do is separate my less-than-AC devices from the bigger ones on their own SSID which helps.

I do not use a USG, so my use of their controller and software is a bit limited. Actually, I tried to adopt a USG into an existing network at work and can never get an internet connection at all. That's a frustrating story that I'm not done with yet.
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:52 pm to
Thanks for the detailed response.

quote:

Speedwise, you aren't going to get 1gbps down/up.


Honestly I don't really need anything close to 1gbps, and I'm probably going overboard with the hardware too considering the size of my house, but I'm at the point that I don't want to leave any doubts. I'm willing to pay for that peace of mind.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:07 pm to
We are in the same boat.
I probably would have bought a Dream Machine and tested then added peripheral access points as the need arose, but the device didn't exist yet.

If you have a central location and are buying a built house, maybe consider that approach.

If you're building now, might as well run the wires to where an AP should go should the need arise. Nothing wrong with starting with 2. I don't think you'll particularly regret it, and I can't say a bad thing about the company or their hardware




...except about the damn USG. But I'm convinced I'm retarded and just missing a button here or there.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:56 am to
Thats awesome. A buddy gave me a USG and Cloud Key cause he was having some issues and upgraded to a Dream Machine. I’m waiting to buy a poe switch and an AP for now, but current router seems to be close to needing replacement. Lost 2 LAN ports on it during a close lightning strike last year. I’m hoping for good enough coverage for my shed at the back of my lot and was considering 2 APs to be safe.

From those that have Unifi, do you see performance differences in the AP-pro amd AP-lite?
Posted by rintintin
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:03 am to
quote:

If you have a central location and are buying a built house, maybe consider that approach.


Pretty much this. The house has a room almost smack dab in the center that I plan to make an office and house the dream machine. I imagine it will have no problem covering the all sq footage of the house.

I plan to put an AP pro somewhere under my outdoor kitchen to power the backyard.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1579 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:39 am to
quote:

From those that have Unifi, do you see performance differences in the AP-pro amd AP-lite?


I use 4 of the AC-IW and 1 AC-LR (for outdoor). I could have gone with the HD/Pro versions but imo it's overkill for most people. I only use 40Mhz channel width and get very stable 200 Mbps. I could get faster with bigger channel width but then wifi is more susceptible to interference.

Unless you have a ton of devices with heavy bandwidth usage, I'd just get the Lite or LR. You can then upgrade down the road in a few years for a Wifi 6 model.

If you really want to buy a Pro then I'd say get the Nano HD instead. It supports MU-Mimo where the AP Pro does not. Also you can get skins if you need it to blend in with the background better.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:56 am to
I have a question on this if I may.

I'm building what is essentially a 2600sf home with full basement and attic office space above. I also am building a separate garage, and already have cat6 wired for security cameras on the garage, and will do the same for the house, cameras, TV's and data.

The house is 80ft wide, so I'm thinking I need something about 1/3 from each side to cover the entire house, and would "assume" that it would be fine one floor up or down, and then one in the garage. Will likely put one under my deck for the back yard.

Does that make sense? Am I thinking that through correctly. Would UI products make the most sense?
Posted by TAMU-93
Sachse, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1173 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:01 pm to
The AC-Pro is one of the weather resistant models designed for indoor/outdoor use. It's the right choice for a covered patio. The other models you listed are intended for indoor use only.
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