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re: This is the dumbest most over reactive shite ever

Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13159 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:35 pm to
We are out of Vents as of today btw.
Posted by pufftiger
baton rouge
Member since Aug 2006
349 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:54 am to
No you wanting to destroy the economy and people's way of life to save what is looking like 0.8% of people who get it is the epitome of selfishness. You lack common sense. people are going to get sick and die from this no matter what you do.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39872 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:45 am to
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There is no cure. A trend is only temporary, this is more transmittable than the flu... you're not stopping anything... only slight delay.

You are incorrect. There are two possibilities that could bail out those who are immuno-comprimised.

1. We get a vaccine. This could be as soon as December.
2. Enough people get this that we have herd immunity.

In each of these cases the immuno-comprimised could hunker down until it’s safe. In case #1, that could be 8 months. In case #2, that would be a couple of years. Neither of these cases would require a lengthy lockdown. Just lockdown long enough to lower the infection rate like S Korea did. Then shift to a mitigation strategy that S Korea has already PROVED to be effective. The mitigation strategy includes everyone back at work.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39872 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:47 am to
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Seems like there was a quack poster on here yesterday suggesting that the S. Koreans had stumbled on anti-malarial medicines which had remarkable success.

I spoke to a doctor friend yesterday who told me this has little effect for the old and immuno-compromised. It works well for healthy people, though. Nice, but not what we need to reduce fatalities. This doctor is not the surgeon general, so don’t shoot me if she’s wrong.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39872 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:58 am to
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you don't shut down the whole economic system for basically the flu plus.


This is great progress for you. A month ago it was just the flu.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39872 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 8:01 am to
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Even in Italy, the average age is like 79+ for males for death but the normal life expectancy in Italy for a male is 80.

You have a terrible grasp of statistics. You imply here that we’re only saving a year or so. But Italian males who live to 79 don’t have a life expectancy of 80; it is way higher than that.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
59407 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:45 am to
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Yes can bet your arse if a democrat was the incumbent this shite would be on the third page of the newspaper and take up maybe two minutes on the network news.

When Obama was president and we had the last outbreak, 3000 Americans died and the world did not end.

This is mostly about politics. This isn’t as bad as the swine flu or avian flu that hit in the past decade.




This was actually posted yesterday? 1) You’re dumb as all frick. 2) Carry your dumbass to the fricking Poliboard with the fricking stupid shite, fricking dumbass. frick
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:23 am to
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You are incorrect. There are two possibilities that could bail out those who are immuno-comprimised.

1. We get a vaccine. This could be as soon as December.
2. Enough people get this that we have herd immunity.

In each of these cases the immuno-comprimised could hunker down until it’s safe. In case #1, that could be 8 months. In case #2, that would be a couple of years. Neither of these cases would require a lengthy lockdown. Just lockdown long enough to lower the infection rate like S Korea did. Then shift to a mitigation strategy that S Korea has already PROVED to be effective. The mitigation strategy includes everyone back at work.


You may never get a vaccine, for there to be herd immunity... you're not stopping it... people would be getting it.

So... back to what I said last week.. isolate the old sick people.. everyone else get back to work as much can't be done.

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In each of these cases the immuno-comprimised could hunker down until it’s safe.


Bingo, what I said last week.

All of this has been a huge waste of time, resources and possibly a destruction of the financial credit system.



This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 10:24 am
Posted by BoCoTiger
Colorado
Member since Jan 2012
354 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:57 am to
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We are out of Vents as of today btw.


So sorry to hear this. God bless you and all the other health professionals on the front lines who are now or soon to be forced to make judgment calls against your hippocratic oath to do no harm. The lack of leadership and planning in this country has caused this strain on the medical community.

Until the MAGAts have personal experience with a family member or friend who gets cast aside without a life-saving device because they are "gonna die anyway", they will continue to put money ahead of human life. There's no sense continuing to argue.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:18 pm to
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Until the MAGAts have personal experience with a family member or friend who gets cast aside without a life-saving device because they are "gonna die anyway", they will continue to put money ahead of human life. There's no sense continuing to argue.


They are going to die anyway because they are old and sick, this is just accelerating the process. They weren't dying in China from a lack of vents, 95% of the people who were put on the vents died... not in a month or a year... right at the hospital.

The is the flu+, being a fricking drama queen doesn't change anything. Its not causing strain, well, in Italy it did, not from giving people medical help... they was nowhere to stack the old sick people bodies that were dying as the hospital isn't helping them.

Its a lack of common sense at this point... we've had the data for quite some time now.

If you have an old person in your life with one or more pre-existing conditions... they should be in isolation.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:50 pm to
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If you have an old person in your life with one or more pre-existing conditions... they should be in isolation.


And if they’ve already been exposed and get sick? Leave them at home to die a miserable death alone?
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:53 pm to
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And if they’ve already been exposed and get sick? Leave them at home to die a miserable death alone?


Why weren't they in isolation weeks ago, my parents have been? What does that have to do with everyone else, people die miserable deaths every day?

Being a drama queen isn't going to change the facts, the old sick people should be in isolation... this really isn't complex. I went to Walmart last week, 80% of the people were 65+, I would say most were over 75. Not sure what this has to do with the rest of the population.

What about they stay at home? LOL Problem solved.

At this point, its like arguing with people that think the moon is made out of cheese. To be honest, not even sure what your point is.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5279 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 2:31 pm to
My friend, an Active Duty servicemember that played rugby in college and is still extremely healthy just got released back to his home for 14 days of quarantine after spending a week in an off-base medical center with pneumonia in both lungs. He’s just over 40. He’s fine now because the system in South Carolina isn’t overwhelmed and they could give him the care he needed. If there was no bed space, it could have gone very differently.

It’s not just the old that this hits hard. Sure, it’s anecdotal, but to imply folks under 60 won’t be hit hard is just wrong.

Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 2:43 pm to
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My friend, an Active Duty servicemember that played rugby in college and is still extremely healthy just got released back to his home for 14 days of quarantine after spending a week in an off-base medical center with pneumonia in both lungs. He’s just over 40. He’s fine now because the system in South Carolina isn’t overwhelmed and they could give him the care he needed. If there was no bed space, it could have gone very differently.

It’s not just the old that this hits hard. Sure, it’s anecdotal, but to imply folks under 60 won’t be hit hard is just wrong.



Actually you're wrong, the data is widely available... this is clearly an elderly issue that doesn't mean that younger people can't be impacted, just not very likely... much less than the flu. I actually think that I had this already, in January.

LINK /

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Coronavirus ‘may have already infected half of UK population’


This has been suggested by many of us on this forum even a week ago.

This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 2:51 pm
Posted by HTF4U
Livonia
Member since Apr 2019
2619 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:43 pm to
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Time to burn the NCAA down they serve no purpose anymore


being gay is dumb too pelicanboi

but i guess whatever floats your boat
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39872 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 2:41 pm to
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All of this has been a huge waste of time, resources and possibly a destruction of the financial credit system.

No, it was wise to do the social isolation. The death toll would be far higher had we been overrun - and we would have been. But the next week should show a leveling out, and our capacity has been tremendously increased. I think Trump is on the right track now. Unless something goes asunder, we can go back to work in a week or two, except for isolated cities.

We have not destroyed our “financial credit system”, lol. My credit cards still work; my mortgage is good; and my business’ line of credit is active.

ETA: Geauxfightingtiger, You should check out the WSJ piece from today (25th) suggesting the infection rates are about 20 times higher than we’ve thought, and that the morbidity rate is about 1/10 of the flu. Not a typo there.
This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 5:20 pm
Posted by kkv75
Member since Sep 2017
4890 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:05 am to
More dead now than in 9-11. Still think it's a democratic hoax?? Lot of dead people in the hoax. That's commitment.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14012 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:20 am to
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Lot of dead people in the hoax.


Trump’s in on the hoax now:

a somber President Trump told Americans to brace for “a very painful two weeks" and warned of thousands of more virus-related deaths.

"The surge is coming, and it’s coming pretty strong,"
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39988 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:10 am to
I hope this retard keeps fighting this stupid fight. I could use the entertainment.
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6606 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:08 am to
I just parachuted into this thread and regret it.

Some people are irretrievably stupid.
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