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YA Tittle & Bert Jones only LSU QBs to start multiple NFL seasons
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:06 pm
LSU's infamous lack of NFL QB talent is about to come to an end. Taking a look back however, it's amazing how bare the cupboard is. Lowering the bar to just "more than one season as a starter", I think the list still begins and ends with Tittle and Jones. Technically, Woodley passes the bar, but only because of the strike.
"Successful" NFL QBs:
YA Tittle - 1948-64; 33,070yds
Bert Jones - season starter: 75-77, 80-81; 18,190yds
David Woodley - season starter: 1981-82(82 = strike)*; Started 53 games in 6yrs; 8558 career yds.
Other notables:
JaMarcus Russell - started 25 games; 4083yds, biggest bust in NFL history
Mack Reynolds - started 9 games; played in 40; 2932 yds
Matt Flynn - started 7 games; played in 53; 2541yds, best LSU NFL journeyman backup ever
Mettenberger - started 10 games; 2347 career yds
Tommy Hodson - started 12 games in 3yrs; 1823 career yds
Warren Rabb - started 10 games in 3yrs; 1782 career yds
*Does this really count?
"Successful" NFL QBs:
YA Tittle - 1948-64; 33,070yds
Bert Jones - season starter: 75-77, 80-81; 18,190yds
David Woodley - season starter: 1981-82(82 = strike)*; Started 53 games in 6yrs; 8558 career yds.
Other notables:
JaMarcus Russell - started 25 games; 4083yds, biggest bust in NFL history
Mack Reynolds - started 9 games; played in 40; 2932 yds
Matt Flynn - started 7 games; played in 53; 2541yds, best LSU NFL journeyman backup ever
Mettenberger - started 10 games; 2347 career yds
Tommy Hodson - started 12 games in 3yrs; 1823 career yds
Warren Rabb - started 10 games in 3yrs; 1782 career yds
*Does this really count?
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:25 pm to TDlurker
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JaMarcus Russell - started 25 games; 4083yds, biggest bust in NFL history
How did he start 25 games and not start multiple NFL seasons?
But to the general theme of the thread, QB is a weird position. Given there is only 1 starting QB on each team and many start for years on end, there aren't really a ton of opportunities to have more than a couple guys with multiple years of starting experience. For instance, since Kenny Stabler in 1984, Alabama has had Brodie Croyle start 10 games over 5 seasons, Jeff Rutledge start 10 over 13 seasons, Greg McElroy start 1 game in 1 season, and AJ McCarron start 4 games over 6 seasons. So they've gone almost 40 years without a QB starting multiple seasons in the NFL. That will likely change going forward with Tua same as Burrow with LSU
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:28 pm to TDlurker
Russell Shepard?
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:36 pm to TDlurker
Flynn broke Packer records for most yards(480) and touchdowns(6) in a single game, also won a Super Bowl.
ETA: correct yardage
ETA: correct yardage
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:48 pm to lsufball19
quote:1 game in 2007, 15 in 2008, and 9 in 2009. The only reason he 'started' that many in 2009 was due to injuries to Bradkowski. If the Raiders hadn't invested so much in him, they would have dumped him after 2008. He did begin 2009 as the starter, but that was only because they were paying him so much, and 5 games in he was a running joke. He finished the season at #3 on the depth chart. By my lights, that excludes him from being the 'starter' that season. But if you want to quibble, maybe I should have said "complete" season or "most" of season.
How did he start 25 games and not start multiple NFL seasons?
In any event, the point of my post was to demonstrate that the list of "successful" NFL QBs is limited to 2, using even a laughably low bar. Regardless the standard, it's impossible to argue that JaMarcus had "success" no matter how you define it.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:50 pm to TDlurker
Russell started in games over 3 separate seasons. I would call that multiple seasons.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:51 pm to jimbeam
quote:Not a NFL QB
Russell Shepard?
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:55 pm to WacoTiger
quote:I'm talking about multiple SEASONS as the starter. Several LSU QBs have started GAMES across multiple seasons, including Russell, Rabb, Hodson, etc.
Russell started in games over 3 separate seasons. I would call that multiple seasons.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 4:59 pm to TDlurker
quote:
I'm talking about multiple SEASONS as the starter. Several LSU QBs have started GAMES across multiple seasons, including Russell, Rabb, Hodson, etc.
How many games does a QB have to start in any particular season to qualify as being a starter for the season? Seems like you’re trying to split hairs that don’t need to be split.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:00 pm to TDlurker
you forgot David Woodley in Miami and Pittsburg
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:01 pm to Sir Fury
It’s not splitting hairs. I would consider it to mean a QB who is the named starter for full seasons. I’d even include instances where a player was injured and wasn’t able to start.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:04 pm to CaptainPanic
quote:
I would consider it to mean a QB who is the named starter for full seasons.
This list would be pretty short for most colleges.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:09 pm to BigLarry
quote:No I didn't
you forgot David Woodley in Miami and Pittsburg
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:26 pm to lsufball19
quote:Yes, and I'd say Alabama's recent success-in-spite-of-NFL-QB is pretty impressive, but even at that, I'd say generating Bart Starr, Joe Namath and Kenny Stabler in the span of two decades makes Alabama pretty QB-rich. All 3 of those are significantly more successful than Bert Jones, and Tittle was 72 years ago.
since Kenny Stabler in 1984, Alabama has had Brodie Croyle start 10 games over 5 seasons, Jeff Rutledge start 10 over 13 seasons, Greg McElroy start 1 game in 1 season, and AJ McCarron start 4 games over 6 seasons. So they've gone almost 40 years without a QB starting multiple seasons in the NFL
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:28 pm to TDlurker
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Bert Jones
One of if not the biggest what if in NFL history. If he could have stayed healthy there is no doubt he would be in the Hall of Fame and be considered among the greatest NFL QB's ever. The dude was John Elway before John Elway.
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This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:31 pm to lsufball19
quote:I'm guessing LSU is the only elite P5 team that has had only one is 70+ years, and none in 48 years.
This list would be pretty short for most colleges.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 5:45 pm to TDlurker
You didn’t mention that Bert won the MVP (1976) By my logic, that makes him the best NFL QB to come from LSU.
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:06 pm to TDlurker
I thought I was pretty good at LSU history, but who was Mack Reynolds?
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:21 pm to TDlurker
quote:
I'm guessing LSU is the only elite P5 team that has had only one is 70+ years, and none in 48 years
I’m guessing the list for Nebraska is pretty small.
Also Florida’s list of starting qbs for a full season is pretty small
Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:39 pm to geauxpurple
quote:M.C Reynolds entered the NFL in 1958. He's the QB that Warren Rabb replaced a year before Rabb, Cannon and gang won the NC. I think that explains his forgetability. Kind of like Danny Etling, who I'm already beginning to forget.
I thought I was pretty good at LSU history, but who was Mack Reynolds?
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