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LSU players Weigh-in : combine *Thurs update DB
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:56 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:56 am
Will update as the position groups continue to be measured
TE Thaddeus Moss
Height: 6-1 7/8
Weight: 250
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 31 7/8
Wingspan: 78 2/8
RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Height: 5-7 2/8
Weight: 207
Hand: 9 5/8
Arm: 29
Wingspan: 70 5/8
OG Damien Lewis
Height: 6-2
Weight: 327
Hand: 10 2/8
Arm: 33
Wingspan: 79 4/8
OC Lloyd Cushenberry
Height: 6-3 1/8
Weight: 312
Hand: 10 3/8
Arm: 34 1/8
Wingspan: 84 2/8
OT Saahdiq Charles
Height: 6-4 1/8
Weight: 321
Hand: 10
Arm: 33
Wingspan: 80 3/8
LS Blake Ferguson
Height: 6-2 5/8
Weight: 229
Hand: 9 6/8
Arm: 31 3/8
Wingspan: 75 6/8
WR Justin Jefferson
Height: 6-1 2/8
Weight: 202
Hand: 9 1/8
Arm: 33
Wingspan: 78
QB Joe Burrow
Height: 6-3 4/8
Weight: 221
Hand: 9
Arm: 30 7/8
Wingspan: 74
TE Stephen Sullivan
Height: 6-4 7/8
Weight: 248
Hand: 10 1/8
Arm: 35 3/8
Wingspan: 85
TE Thaddeus Moss
Height: 6-1 7/8
Weight: 250
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 31 7/8
Wingspan: 78 2/8
DT Rashard Lawrence
Height: 6-2
Weight: 308
Hand: 11
Arm: 34 1/8
Wingspan: 80 3/8
OLB K’Lavon Chaisson
Height: 6-3
Weight: 254
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 79 2/8
OLB Michael Divinity
Height: 6-1 5/8
Weight: 242
Hand: 9 4/8
Arm: 33 5/8
Wingspan: 80
ILB Jacob Phillips
Height: 6-3
Weight: 229
Hand: 10
Arm: 32 3/8
Wingspan: 78 2/8
ILB Patrick Queen
Height: 6-0 2/8
Weight: 229
Hand: 10
Arm: 31 5/8
Wingspan: 76 7/8
CB Kristian Fulton
Height: 5-11 5/8
Weight: 197
Hand: 9 1/8
Arm: 30 5/8
Wingspan: 71 7/8
FS Grant Delpit
Height: 6-2 4/8
Weight: 213
Hand: 9 1/8
Arm: 30 3/8
Wingspan: 74 4/8
TE Thaddeus Moss
Height: 6-1 7/8
Weight: 250
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 31 7/8
Wingspan: 78 2/8
RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Height: 5-7 2/8
Weight: 207
Hand: 9 5/8
Arm: 29
Wingspan: 70 5/8
OG Damien Lewis
Height: 6-2
Weight: 327
Hand: 10 2/8
Arm: 33
Wingspan: 79 4/8
OC Lloyd Cushenberry
Height: 6-3 1/8
Weight: 312
Hand: 10 3/8
Arm: 34 1/8
Wingspan: 84 2/8
OT Saahdiq Charles
Height: 6-4 1/8
Weight: 321
Hand: 10
Arm: 33
Wingspan: 80 3/8
LS Blake Ferguson
Height: 6-2 5/8
Weight: 229
Hand: 9 6/8
Arm: 31 3/8
Wingspan: 75 6/8
WR Justin Jefferson
Height: 6-1 2/8
Weight: 202
Hand: 9 1/8
Arm: 33
Wingspan: 78
QB Joe Burrow
Height: 6-3 4/8
Weight: 221
Hand: 9
Arm: 30 7/8
Wingspan: 74
TE Stephen Sullivan
Height: 6-4 7/8
Weight: 248
Hand: 10 1/8
Arm: 35 3/8
Wingspan: 85
TE Thaddeus Moss
Height: 6-1 7/8
Weight: 250
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 31 7/8
Wingspan: 78 2/8
DT Rashard Lawrence
Height: 6-2
Weight: 308
Hand: 11
Arm: 34 1/8
Wingspan: 80 3/8
OLB K’Lavon Chaisson
Height: 6-3
Weight: 254
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 32 2/8
Wingspan: 79 2/8
OLB Michael Divinity
Height: 6-1 5/8
Weight: 242
Hand: 9 4/8
Arm: 33 5/8
Wingspan: 80
ILB Jacob Phillips
Height: 6-3
Weight: 229
Hand: 10
Arm: 32 3/8
Wingspan: 78 2/8
ILB Patrick Queen
Height: 6-0 2/8
Weight: 229
Hand: 10
Arm: 31 5/8
Wingspan: 76 7/8
CB Kristian Fulton
Height: 5-11 5/8
Weight: 197
Hand: 9 1/8
Arm: 30 5/8
Wingspan: 71 7/8
FS Grant Delpit
Height: 6-2 4/8
Weight: 213
Hand: 9 1/8
Arm: 30 3/8
Wingspan: 74 4/8
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 9:23 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:57 am to Lester Earl
First thought: Saahdiq is much more of a prototypical OT size then I had thought. He could make himself a lot of money this week if he interviews well.
OT Saahdiq Charles
Height: 6-4 1/8
Weight: 321
Hand: 10
Arm: 33
Wingspan: 80 3/8
OT Saahdiq Charles
Height: 6-4 1/8
Weight: 321
Hand: 10
Arm: 33
Wingspan: 80 3/8
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:59 am to Lester Earl
quote:
RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Height: 5-7 2/8
Weight: 207
Hand: 9 5/8
Arm: 29
Wingspan: 70 5/8
quote:
QB Joe Burrow
Height: 6-3 4/8
Weight: 221
Hand: 9
Arm: 30 7/8
Wingspan: 74
I know the hand size thing is being blown out of proportion but this is still unbelievable to me.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:01 am to Lester Earl
Remember when a 300# lineman was considered a monster?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:04 am to Lester Earl
quote:
OT Saahdiq Charles
Height: 6-4 1/8
Weight: 321
Hand: 10
Arm: 33
Wingspan: 80 3/8
Might as well put guard next to his name with a wingpsan that short.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:05 am to PhillyFan1994
Crazy right?
Years ago when this info wasn’t readily available, everyone thought hand size & arm length were relative to your height.
You soon learn that elite athletes are a different breed. Lloyd cushenberry’s wing span for example on a 6’3” human is other worldly. Drew Brees & Russell Wilson have hands well over 10”, and they are just normally built everyday Joes.
You start to compile the data & you understand why these freaks find their way to the court & field.
Years ago when this info wasn’t readily available, everyone thought hand size & arm length were relative to your height.
You soon learn that elite athletes are a different breed. Lloyd cushenberry’s wing span for example on a 6’3” human is other worldly. Drew Brees & Russell Wilson have hands well over 10”, and they are just normally built everyday Joes.
You start to compile the data & you understand why these freaks find their way to the court & field.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:08 am to thunderbird1100
They don’t really care about wingspan for OL, it’s more about arm length, tho the 2 obviously correlate a little.
33” isn’t ideal but there are plenty of good OTs that play at that length.
Below 33” you are in guard territory
33” isn’t ideal but there are plenty of good OTs that play at that length.
Below 33” you are in guard territory
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:15 am to Lester Earl
quote:
33” isn’t ideal but there are plenty of good OTs that play at that length.
33" would be among the shortest of all offensive linemen measured up last year, not just OTs. Lot of guys in the 34-35" range. It's certainly not a "good" OT number. It's definitely an interior number they see.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 9:18 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:17 am to Lester Earl
Cush's measurables are impressive.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:18 am to clamdip
quote:
Cush's measurables are impressive.
Yeah he's got better OT measurables than Charles by a decent bit too. Not that he's going to play that, but the guy has a nice build to him.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 9:19 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:27 am to Lester Earl
Crazy how this whole time we’ve been told Sullivan is 6’7
Im surprised Clyde isn’t 220
Im surprised Clyde isn’t 220
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:51 am to Lester Earl
quote:
OC Lloyd Cushenberry Height: 6-3 1/8 Weight: 312 Hand: 10 3/8 Arm: 34 1/8 Wingspan: 84 2/8
Holy shite that wingspan. 7’ at 6’3.
No I know how he manages leverage so well. Motherfrickers can’t get hands on him.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:15 am to thunderbird1100
quote:
Lot of guys in the 34-35" range. It's certainly not a "good" OT number. It's definitely an interior number they see.
I didn’t say it was a good number. I said there are plenty of good OTs with arms in that length range.
All these guys have sub 34” arms
Joe Staley
Duane brown
Jason peters
Joe Thomas
Trent Williams
Mitchell Swartz
Lael Collins
Bryan Bulaga
To name a few
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:19 am to thunderbird1100
quote:
Yeah he's got better OT measurables than Charles by a decent bit too. Not that he's going to play that, but the guy has a nice build to him.
6’3” OTs are much more rare than a guy with 33” arms lol
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:27 am to Lester Earl
quote:Great measurements for Lloyd.
OC Lloyd Cushenberry
Height: 6-3 1/8
Weight: 312
Hand: 10 3/8
Arm: 34 1/8
Wingspan: 84 2/8
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:34 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Joe Staley
Duane brown
Jason peters
Joe Thomas
Trent Williams
Mitchell Swartz
Lael Collins
Bryan Bulaga
Are any of them 33" flat. Again at 33" flat you start getting pigeon hole'd into interior player. A lot of those guys you mentioned are closer to 34" than 33". I bet a lot of them have greater than 80" wingspans too.
Just pointing out what NFL teams do, at 33" flat, he would have been in 46th out of 57 offensive linemen in last year's draft in terms of arm length.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 10:36 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:35 am to Lester Earl
quote:
You soon learn that elite athletes are a different breed
Yep. What really made Koufax and Pedro Martinez so dominant was that they had HUGE hands:
In this pic, Kershaw is like 3-4 inches taller, but look at Koufax's hand
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:52 am to Lester Earl
Charles is an og in the nfl imo
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:00 am to thunderbird1100
I don’t disagree it’s on the low side. But so are guys like Jason peters, Bulaga, Jake Matthews. & Lael that are all within two 8ths of 33”.
You are talking a 10% tile athletic measure by Charles vs a 12%’er & 14%’er.
They are all low but they all get by.
Even Mitchell Schwartz at 33.5” is at 23% tile. He’s a stud,.
Funny when people want to split hairs over 1/8” (Charles’ case) but not in Joe Burrows case lol
You are talking a 10% tile athletic measure by Charles vs a 12%’er & 14%’er.
They are all low but they all get by.
Even Mitchell Schwartz at 33.5” is at 23% tile. He’s a stud,.
Funny when people want to split hairs over 1/8” (Charles’ case) but not in Joe Burrows case lol
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:01 am to sunnydaze
quote:
Charles is an og in the nfl imo
I thought he was too cause I thought he was closer to 6’3” 300. Not so sure now.
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