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re: Why can every other first world country have healthcare for all?

Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:12 am to
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:12 am to
Maybe your friend should look into moving to one of those other countries.

Quite frankly, I’m sick of paying thousands of dollars out of pocket after insurance for a brief ER visit because your friend had emergency surgery performed at the same hospital but paid nothing. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t turned away at the door.

Seems it would be for everyone’s benefit if your friend packed up and left.

And if he doesn’t move elsewhere, what will he do when I move elsewhere because I’m tired of having more than half of what I earn confiscated via all the various state and federal taxes, not to mention the inflated cost of goods and services that I must pay so that your friend can receive those same goods and services at little or no cost? Who will pay for him then?

And then when those people have no remaining incentive to work and produce because the little of their earnings that they are allowed to keep isn’t sufficient motivation to continue working and producing, who covers the bill then?

Instead of blaming those of us who work and produce things of value to others who ultimately pay for food, housing, healthcare, and such for those unable to pay, maybe try blaming the politicians and their affiliated party for destroying schools and creating a system designed to create a permanent underclass and prevent those people from ever escaping from poverty. Meanwhile, as their constituents are struggling to make ends meet and dependent on money confiscated from others for to pay for basic necessities, they themselves grow obscenely wealthy - not from their own work or value to the marketplace, but from corrupt deals, insider trading and laundered taxpayer money awarded to front companies and fake nonprofits in the form of government contracts.

Those babbling idiots on stage tonight are importing millions of people illegally - people who work for minimum wage or less and pay no taxes. That increases the supply of labor while the demand remains static. This directly results in lower wages for everyone.

If you think “the rich” (most of whom are solidly middle class at best) are the reason your friend is poor, open your damn eyes! People who work, earn and produce are taxed so heavily and pay so much more for things like healthcare that whatever money they don’t have to allocate to paying bills and buying necessities has to be put away as savings or they’d never be able to stop working.

If fewer people were dependent upon them just to exist, their wages and salaries weren’t artificially suppressed via illegal immigration and government didn’t seize so much for other purposes besides defense and infrastructure, they might start businesses with some of that money. Those businesses need workers. That means jobs that wouldn’t otherwise exist. With more businesses needing employees to perform the jobs needed to keep them in business, the demand for labor increases while supply either remains static (status quo) or decreases (deportations of people here illegally). Either way, the increased demand for labor forces companies to compete for the same pool of potential employees.

So how do the workers decide which company to work for when there are more jobs available than people to perform them? They work for whichever is willing to pay them the most.

Your friend’s preferred elected officials are artificially suppressing wages for everyone for no reason other than that they get to remain in power getting far wealthier than “the rich” (as the super-rich Dems like to call them) off of corrupt dealings and stolen money from people who earned it honorably.

If your friend isn’t getting everything to which he feels entitled, tell him to stop voting for fricking Democrats. They’re the reason for the vast majority of poverty in America and are solely responsible for making it so difficult to escape generational poverty.

All those illegal migrant workers taking jobs from some Americans and suppressing wages for others are also voting for the same immoral cretins who sleep well at night knowing that children go to bed hungry as a direct result of their policies.

Your friend would probably have been able to figure all of this out for himself if Democrats hadn’t systemically destroyed public and especially inner-city schools, and sabotaged the curriculum so that books like Atlas Shrugged are no longer required reading. Even if it was, many if not most students these days aren’t even literate enough to comprehend what they’re reading anyway.

If every poor person read that book, the result of that single action alone would rescue more people from the grips of generational poverty than any democrat/socialist economic policy or social program has ever in the history of humanity.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57455 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:16 am to
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Maybe your friend should look into moving to one of those other countries.
Just wait until he finds out... they don't have a porous border or wide-open immigration policies like we do. $5 says he never make the connection to "cheaper healthare costs"
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