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Posted on 2/15/20 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/15/20 at 9:26 pm to
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That means that Democratic control over Blacks goes beyond socioeconomic lines.


Look - I've said this before in #BlackSession threads, but black folks in America developed a set of survival skills during slavery, Reconstruction and Jim Crow. Among these many are things like "sticking together", don't trust Ofays and not snitching. Part of this "sticking together" is the black block vote. Frankly, these instincts served them as well as possible under the circumstances and I understand how they have persisted.

But, these are archaic and need to be discarded. They are not serving the needs of black folks or the black community. Blacks are disproportionately the victims of crime (particularly violent crime) and better cooperation and relationship with the police would be in everyone's best interests.

As a political force, blacks are largely held hostage to the whims and corruption of their "community organizers" and "pastors" who dutifully herd them into voting booths every election cycle (for a price, of course) only to send them back into their failing communities (largely black and Democrat led, by the way), with failed schools, poverty, addiction and a general lack of hope continues to abound.

Part of the reason Trump may resonate a little more than prior Republican Presidents is that he does offer an optimistic message for the future and actively asked black voters to consider him as an alternative ("What the hell do you have to lose?").

What, indeed.
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 9:29 pm
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 2:00 pm to
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Look - I've said this before in #BlackSession threads, but black folks in America developed a set of survival skills during slavery, Reconstruction and Jim Crow. Among these many are things like "sticking together", don't trust Ofays and not snitching. Part of this "sticking together" is the black block vote. Frankly, these instincts served them as well as possible under the circumstances and I understand how they have persisted.



Agreed.

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But, these are archaic and need to be discarded. They are not serving the needs of black folks or the black community. Blacks are disproportionately the victims of crime (particularly violent crime) and better cooperation and relationship with the police would be in everyone's best interests.


Agreed. With the cavaet that the "war on drugs" was specifically designed to target minorities areas.
We can debate on whether this was the best approach but we can't debate that it largely has been a failure.

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As a political force, blacks are largely held hostage to the whims and corruption of their "community organizers" and "pastors" who dutifully herd them into voting booths every election cycle (for a price, of course) only to send them back into their failing communities (largely black and Democrat led, by the way), with failed schools, poverty, addiction and a general lack of hope continues to abound.



There is much to unpack here outside of 1 thread. Suffice to say all pastors are not trying to do the Democratic Party bidding. They want what's best for their flock, usually that takes the form if government assistance.

We both know that's not the best way out of poverty. But it's very difficult to convince people who lived in a destructive lifestyle to follow a better path.

That's why I admire Owens because at least she's trying. It's her methods that many don't agree with it.

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Part of the reason Trump may resonate a little more than prior Republican Presidents is that he does offer an optimistic message for the future and actively asked black voters to consider him as an alternative ("What the hell do you have to lose?").


As much as I hate to say this, its because Trump's delivery is simple and to the point. He doesn't use euphemisms or any tact when addressing the public. However he is able to reach more of the public using that style of speech.

Im not mad at POTUS because he's figured out the best way to get a message across. It's just unfortunate that the average American citizen is too dumb to realize their are always nuances to a situation. That criticism goes DOUBLE for Black people.
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