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Swamp draining questions
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:30 am
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:30 am
If during Trump’s next term, Durham drops the hammer, how many people actually get caught up in the mess and how many are elected officials?
We all know most of DC is profiting one way or another with taxpayers money. If the swamp was truly drained would 1/3 of the House and Senate resign or face criminal charges? What would short term fallout look like.....total chaos?
Would these actions lead to more or less civil unrest? Which party would best capitalize on the vacancies?
Or would the end result just be more of the same with different names?
We all know most of DC is profiting one way or another with taxpayers money. If the swamp was truly drained would 1/3 of the House and Senate resign or face criminal charges? What would short term fallout look like.....total chaos?
Would these actions lead to more or less civil unrest? Which party would best capitalize on the vacancies?
Or would the end result just be more of the same with different names?
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:32 am to Oddibe
A few low level staff will take the hit.
The real swamp will continue on
The real swamp will continue on
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:34 am to Oddibe
Serious question: if it is that damning, why would TRUMP wait until after the election to have Durham drop the hammer? Wouldn't shedding light on that be useful to his re-election, or more to the point, wouldnt those bad swamp actors be a liability to steal the election from TRUMP for those cheating dems?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:40 am to 9th life
quote:I only say next term because we are in the middle of the election cycle. I would love for indictments to come out now......BUT the political fallout during campaign season could really hurt Trump......it would be perceived as if he were using his power to punish his enemies. At the same time many Republicans would also denounce the actions to protect themselves.
: if it is that damning, why would TRUMP wait until after the election to have Durham drop the hammer?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:49 am to Oddibe
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BUT the political fallout during campaign season could really hurt Trump
I fail to see how uncovering political wrongdoing could hurt TRUMP. If what Durham is doing is legitimate, then what would the timing matter.
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it would be perceived as if he were using his power to punish his enemies
He was just told that this was acceptable. his lawyers successfully argued that what is in his interest is in the national interest. and then the senate reinforced and supported that argument with an acquittal.
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At the same time many Republicans would also denounce the actions to protect themselves.
Why would that be any different in the next term?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:52 am to 9th life
STRIKE NOW..Get them and hit hard. Put them on their heels and stop them from stealing his upcoming election.
From Comey to Shifty Schiff, we all know it was and is a huge conspiracy and heads have to roll. Time to strike to stop them from coming at Trump again right before the election, which is exactly what they are going to do.
From Comey to Shifty Schiff, we all know it was and is a huge conspiracy and heads have to roll. Time to strike to stop them from coming at Trump again right before the election, which is exactly what they are going to do.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:53 am to Oddibe
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, Durham drops the hammer
Won't happen.
This is hope porn.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:55 am to GumboPot
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Won't happen.
This is hope porn.
There you go again.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:56 am to Oddibe
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If during Trump’s next term, Durham drops the hammer,
I believe the hammer will fall before November.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:57 am to Oddibe
Elected swamp is a lot easier to get rid of than lower level, bureaucratic swamp. Justice and State departments are CRAWLING with them. They are dug in and can’t wait for a swamp creature to be elected president
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:00 am to 9th life
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Serious question: if it is that damning, why would TRUMP wait until after the election to have Durham drop the hammer?
Because Lindsay Graham, Richard Burr, Mitt Romney and a few more swamp arse Republicans are caught up in the malfeasance that took place over the years and these senators control major committees in the senate which are basically are the gate keepers to what crimes in the swamp gets investigated or what crimes get white washed.
For example Lindsay is caught up in the Ukraine mess. So is Mitt.
Lindsay is caught up with the Obama State Department selling arms to ISIS. So was McCain.
McCain is caught up in promoting the fake Russian Dossier. So is Richard Burr.
A LOT of white washing is happening right now.
Justice will not be done.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:01 am to 9th life
quote:Timing matters because of the election. The whole impeachment process was about “abuse of power”. If the indictments(right or wrong) come out now the Dems will and media will all be onboard saying “see, he is abusing his power again and why he needs be impeached”
fail to see how uncovering political wrongdoing could hurt TRUMP. If what Durham is doing is legitimate, then what would the timing matter.
quote:Just look at Lindsey Graham’s statement this weekend that contradict....he said a lot of people are going to jail and then said there may be a lot of disinformation regarding Ukraine. There are a lot of republicans who want this to go away as quickly as possible.
and then the senate reinforced and supported that argument with an acquittal.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:02 am to 9th life
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There you go again.
Where am I going?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:03 am to 4x4tiger
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Elected swamp is a lot easier to get rid of than lower level, bureaucratic swamp. Justice and State departments are CRAWLING with them. They are dug in and can’t wait for a swamp creature to be elected president
Swamp Draining in Progress........
MAJOR CUTS TO NSC EXPECTED THIS WEEK — Anti-Trump Deep State Operatives Hurt the Most
MAJOR CUTS TO NSC EXPECTED THIS WEEK — Anti-Trump Deep State Operatives Hurt the Most
Jim Hoft by Jim Hoft February 9, 2020
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CNN reported:
O’Brien has largely been downsizing the NSC by attrition and getting staffers detailed to the council from other departments to return earlier than planned to their home agencies, but one of the sources told CNN it looks like the final phase will involve more direct firings and cuts.
“So it’s bloated. We’re going to bring it back to a size that’s manageable and efficient. And look, the folks who are there, they really need to want to serve the President,” O’Brien told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham Tuesday night.
“What I said when I came to the NSC is that I would drastically downsize it,” he added.
O’Brien said the council had “ballooned up” to 236 policy professionals in the Obama administration from about 100 during the Bush administration.
“Another week or two, I think we’ll have met our goal,” he said.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:08 am to Orwell84
There's nothing to see here. Traitors are being frog marched out of the White House regularly right now, but no justice will be served. 
Why? Because I've been assured this by countless naysayers on here who are asking me to deny what my eyes are seeing. Obviously. And anyone who thinks people end up in jail over this is stupid. Gumbopot assures me this is true.
Lindsay Graham said Russia investigators are going to jail? He's a liar (which is true, but I digress). People being removed from their posts on the NSC in droves? Big deal, happens all the time. Go back to sleep.
Why? Because I've been assured this by countless naysayers on here who are asking me to deny what my eyes are seeing. Obviously. And anyone who thinks people end up in jail over this is stupid. Gumbopot assures me this is true.
Lindsay Graham said Russia investigators are going to jail? He's a liar (which is true, but I digress). People being removed from their posts on the NSC in droves? Big deal, happens all the time. Go back to sleep.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:19 am to Oddibe
The swamp is worse than even trump expected, imo.
Without firing the top brass of every government agency, and then firing all the people that were close to them.. you will not be able to drain the swamp.
How can these people be held accountable, when the people in charge of investigating and charging these people... are also part of the swamp?
Without firing the top brass of every government agency, and then firing all the people that were close to them.. you will not be able to drain the swamp.
How can these people be held accountable, when the people in charge of investigating and charging these people... are also part of the swamp?
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:23 am to BoarEd
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People being removed from their posts on the NSC in droves?
Droves?? How many in a "drove"?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:24 am to 9th life
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He was just told that this was acceptable. his lawyers successfully argued that what is in his interest is in the national interest. and then the senate reinforced and supported that argument with an acquittal.
It's one thing to do that in a removal trial where the outcome was pretty much certain.
It's another thing to do that in an election where he didn't win the popular vote (but did win the Electoral College), is the risk to lose both worth it? Or is it better to win the election, take that as a sign to go forth, and then hit them early and often.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:34 am to Dale51
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Droves?? How many in a "drove"?
I think getting rid of over half of a department of 0bama appointments may count as a drove.
O’Brien said the council had “ballooned up” to 236 policy professionals in the Obama administration from about 100 during the Bush administration.
“Another week or two, I think we’ll have met our goal,” he said.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 9:42 am
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:45 am to Oddibe
The only way to truly drain the swamp is to stop all hiring from Ivy League and other prestigious universities and to stop farm out policy and analysis work to think tanks and consultancy firms.
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