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re: Are We Still Bashing Jrue?
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:05 pm to Bronc
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:05 pm to Bronc
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if our path forward in a few years is still the need to move on from Jrue, then you should be doing it at his peak value, no?
The Pels now are like Boston was. They have more assets than they are likely to be able to properly use. Winning a title won't come down to flipping Jrue, it will come down to Zion and Ingram learning to win. Getting playoff experience because you still have guys like Jrue on your team is way more valuable than adding 2 more 1sts in the 20s to the asset portfolio.
The Thunder built themselves up through the draft, but after they drafted Harden, having picks didn't do them much good. From 2009 when they drafted Harden until today, Steven Adams and Reggie Jackson are the only significant piece they added in the draft. LINK
Because the major deficiency with our last 2 super stars was lack of talent, it's understandable to be focused on maximizing the talent on the roster. But this Pels team is starting from a completely different place than the AD and CP3 Hornicans.
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Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:15 pm to TigerinATL
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The Pels now are like Boston was
We’re similar, but the major difference is Zion vs Tatum and Ingram vs Kemba or Brown.
Finding a 3rd superstar and mortgaging a bunch to get him to put next to what we hope are two championship caliber talents is slightly different if we have a top 2 and a top 10 player in a year or two. If Boston made Tatum untouchable and one other and mortgaged the rest for a 3rd superstar, I don’t think you go from very good to “automatic contender barring injury”.
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:32 pm to TigerinATL
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The Pels now are like Boston was. They have more assets than they are likely to be able to properly use. Winning a title won't come down to flipping Jrue, it will come down to Zion and Ingram learning to win. Getting playoff experience because you still have guys like Jrue on your team is way more valuable than adding 2 more 1sts in the 20s to the asset portfolio.
Where did I say that is what I am seeking? Frankly, this post seems to largely argue against positions I didn’t state or infer to be taking.
I mentioned that what you would hope to achieve by cashing in at peak value is exactly what you mentioned, like bringing in a combo guard that is more aligned with our team’s long-term future, a guy like Beal that fits more ideally with our core. Or, trading in some of our chips with Jrue so we avoid a Boston situation where we have too many assets and not enough space. Which would both make the team better, deeper, and age with our core better. You would presumably still have some of the assets left over to continue developing young complimentary talent, but you finalize a championship caliber core of something like Lonzo, Beal, Ingram, Zion, Favors, Hayes, Naw, Reddick, developmental talent and MLE veteran leaders for the next 3-5 years. And I think that would be as good as any roster in the league as Zion and Ingram grow.
There are other scenarios for sure, but that is to illustrate I am not arguing to cash in Jrue for 2 late firsts, or to repeat the failures of Boston or OKC, you cash him in to get better and more whole over the next 3-6 years and maintain a more stable pipeline and asset portfolio.
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 12:34 pm
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