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re: Will you make it to heaven?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:01 pm to IAM4LSU777
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:01 pm to IAM4LSU777
Some of the world's greatest minds in history have pondered this very question:
Richie Rich - "Do G's Get To Go To Heaven?"
Richie Rich - "Do G's Get To Go To Heaven?"
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:02 pm to HempHead
I feel the same way about consciousness, for whatever it’s worth. I can see why someone might attribute free will, too.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:02 pm to Globetrotter747
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Religion is the problem, not the solution.
Faith in a system of morals, whether from revelation, contemplation, or imposition, is an imperative for functional human interaction. We cannot have a cohesive society without some presupposed judgement on the desirability or prohibition of certain actions.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:04 pm to IAM4LSU777
I believe in heaven. Obviously I don't know what it's like but I think kinetic energy, including the concept of the soul, is impossible to destroy...
Now if I die and there's no heaven, then I guess I'm just dead. But if you staunch non-believers die and there is one, you're probably fricked.
Now if I die and there's no heaven, then I guess I'm just dead. But if you staunch non-believers die and there is one, you're probably fricked.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:06 pm to Giantkiller
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Now if I die and there's no heaven, then I guess I'm just dead. But if you staunch non-believers die and there is one, you're probably fricked.
People shite on Pascal's wager, but it's a rational decision.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:08 pm to Richard Flagget
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eternity
You wouldn't experience time the way we do. Time as we know it exists only within the universe.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:08 pm to HempHead
Seems like a bizarre idea that a omniscient god would create an system with that big of an exploit 
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:11 pm to rbWarEagle
Bizarre or not, given the options, it is the smarter bet.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:11 pm to IAM4LSU777
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:13 pm to HempHead
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We cannot have a cohesive society without some presupposed judgement on the desirability or prohibition of certain actions.
Right. And we need a deity to determine this? Was it God who ordained speed limits, the drinking age, and other shite like that?
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People shite on Pascal's wager, but it's a rational decision.
Surely if a mind-reading deity exists it will know when it’s being played by a human.
This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:15 pm to Globetrotter747
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yet I still lead a productive, fulfilling life, can handle adversity, and I have no desire to harm or cheat others.
You could never be a Saints fan, we very much so believe in hell.
It just repeats every year when you have the most hope..
This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:16 pm to Globetrotter747
Yes, there needs to be a deity or some kind of universalistic force that is agreed upon in order for it work effectively, unless you want, as I said, imposition. You can certainly have effective law and order through authoritarian means.
Well, the factor here is whether faith alone is the requirement, or if actions taken as if in faith are more important.
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Surely if a mind-reading deity exists it will know when it’s being played by a human.
Well, the factor here is whether faith alone is the requirement, or if actions taken as if in faith are more important.
This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:48 pm to rbWarEagle
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A lot of animals make choices and I think you’d be hesitant to attribute free will to most if not all of them. Choice exists regardless of free will.
Depends on how you define free will. Do different animals of the same species react differently when presented the same options?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:49 pm to SEClint
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Some people argue that that is hell. Nothingness. Dissipation.
I could agree with that, as it's what I fear most. The loss of emotion, memory, connections.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 1:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Sure. There is variability in decision making between individuals. It’s probably also true that the variability depends on complexity of information processing. Higher complexity would be correlated with higher variability in decision making.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 1:21 pm to Dawgholio
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I’m excited about the eternal darkness and being worm food myself
We come from nature, we return to nature. I'm cool with that.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 1:22 pm to SEClint
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No transfer of energy.
It's scientific fact that energy is conserved in the universe.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 1:29 pm to HawkeyeHankHatfield
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If you’re a Christian.
This.
I know people that are atheists that are wonderful, moral people. But (from what we're told) they will go to hell for nothing believing in God.
I hope God takes their ignorance into consideration because what it if turns out that atheists are incorrect about what they believe.
It's kinda like believing in life on other worlds. The thought of us being the only life in the universe is sorta depressing (but maybe safer). The same holds true about not believing in God and heaven.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 1:43 pm to rbWarEagle
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There is variability in decision making between individuals.
Why is that?
Decisions are made not solely on how we mentally process things, but how we emotionally process things as well. Different people with similar backgrounds choose differently on how they choose to deal with processed information, not so much the information itself.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 1:51 pm to mdomingue
Excellent post, again.
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