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re: Worker's body visible at Hard Rock site
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:00 am to Boudreaux35
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:00 am to Boudreaux35
Im sure he can and will be. Long legal battle for all of that.
Depends on who has what liability between property owner, developer, contractor, etc.
If there isn't enough insurance money to go around I guess the property could be an asset. Even when this property is empty it will probably be vacant for a decade or so.
Depends on who has what liability between property owner, developer, contractor, etc.
If there isn't enough insurance money to go around I guess the property could be an asset. Even when this property is empty it will probably be vacant for a decade or so.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:01 am to High C
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All of the construction technology that we have, and you can’t get a dead person’s remains out of a building when they’re in plain sight?
Unbelievable. If it was my family, I would raise hell until the body was recovered. WTF??? How long has this shite been going on for, and they haven't retrieved that body?? Man, every single day that body remained at that site would be another day added to the pain and suffering portion of the lawsuit.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 10:07 am
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:02 am to fightin tigers
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Even when this property is empty it will probably be vacant for a decade or so.
wrong.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:02 am to Boudreaux35
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That said, is he not, or can he not be, held liable for losses that nearby businesses incur? I know the Saenger was closed for a good while and I'm sure there are other businesses adjacent to the site who can easily claim diminished profits/business
The project is owned by an LLC made up of Kallais, the owner of the GC (Citadel) and the owner of All Star Electric. It is a Delaware LLC. The LLC then hired the GC.
It's been suspected that this will easily exahust the insurance capacity of the GC. And the LLC probably doesn't have any other assets besides this destroyed building. So yeah, they have claims against the LLC, but to get any money out of this, they are going to have to convince a judge that fraud was involved, and pierce the LLC veil to after the LLC members, personally.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:02 am to fightin tigers
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Has anyone, besides this board, asked and received an answer why he is so involved?
bc he's an expert on taking things down...i.e. the monuments
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:04 am to Mr Perfect
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wrong
Hopefully I am.
I just foresee the property getting tied up in a legal battle.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:05 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Why not just saw the guy’s legs off so that they’re not hanging over the ledge?
thats not a very popular stance to take George
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:05 am to fightin tigers
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Depends on who has what liability between property owner, developer, contractor, etc.
First day of class in Business Law 101:
"When in doubt, sue everyone in sight...let the courts figure it out".
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:06 am to TigerWise
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Because they rather stick their head in the sand just like with every other issue. But but but to go cups. People would rather defend the city and Mayor then ask for some accountability. If it wasn’t so sad it be funny. But this is what you get with liberals. Warm fuzzy words and no real action.
Please tell me what you would like New Orleans citizens to do to help solve the demolition and on going legal issues surrounding it
Would you like them to hold a protest?
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:07 am to LSUFanHouston
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It's been suspected that this will easily exahust the insurance capacity of the GC. And the LLC probably doesn't have any other assets besides this destroyed building. So yeah, they have claims against the LLC, but to get any money out of this, they are going to have to convince a judge that fraud was involved, and pierce the LLC veil to after the LLC members, personally.
Would it be wrong to think Kallais believes as the property owner he will get to keep the property since the owner of the dirt won't have much liability?
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 10:08 am
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:07 am to tgrbaitn08
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Why not get a Coast Guard helo and lower a swimmer down? Do you realize how many rescues they did during Katrina.
So you want to a put a helo, and all the rotor wash, over an unstable building?
And clearly there is a difference between dropping a guy in a bucket to pluck a live body off a rooftop, and dropping a guy in a bucket between buildings over a roadway, to get a dead body trapped under thousands of pounds of debris?
How exactly do you plan to remove the rubble that's sitting on top of him?
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:08 am to Ed Osteen
exactly dude. libs protesting in front of city hall tomorrow and tradcons still attacking them. they just wanna whine about everything
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:09 am to Ed Osteen
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Would you like them to hold a protest?
they're having one this weekend
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:10 am to fightin tigers
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Would it be wrong to think Kallais believes as the property owner he will get to keep the property since the owner of the dirt won't have much liability?
Kallais' long game is probably this.
1) Sweep the upper stage of the project. Keep the parking deck.
2) Get the city to demolish the three other historic properties he owns that are adjacent to this property.
3) Build bigger project.
Kallais isn't acting like he has any liability here, that's for sure.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:13 am to LSUFanHouston
He may be looking at development of the other adjacent properties even if he loses this one to a legal battle.
Maybe he has deeper pockets than I assume, because it seems a lot of people would fold up shop and hide their assets while they fly to Panama.
Maybe he has deeper pockets than I assume, because it seems a lot of people would fold up shop and hide their assets while they fly to Panama.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:15 am to Mr Perfect
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they just want to whine about
everything
Wrong. They want a 3 day weekend.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 10:16 am
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:16 am to AlonsoWDC
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Engineering firm screwed the pooch on a new hotel resort, it collapsed and killed three workers, but we got a black mayor so it's her fault somehow.
It's that bitch's fault for not demanding the recovery of the dead body. I haven't seen the pic and don't need to see the pic...but I can tell you this:
I bet the body is not a black man. You could bet your arse on that. Otherwise, that bitch would be on TV every day until the body was recovered.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:16 am to fightin tigers
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Probably the legal battle that would ensue.
Oh, I 100% agree there's going to be a legal battle, but I think that's going to happen no matter what the city does. It just makes more sense to me to start that process now and get rid of that mountain of rubble sooner than to drag feet and still have that thing there next Mardi Gras and just starting the legal battle.
Someone's got to step up and be a goddamned leader for New Orleans in this situation and start swinging the city's weight around to get things moving. Pertinent sections on nuisances, demolitions, and dispositions of properties like this exist in The International Building Code and the city's building code ordinances for EXACTLY situations like this, and they exist to give a city some legal cover and allow it to do what needs to be done if the property owner refuses to.
But, unless the city starts using those ordinances, they push the day they can take action further and further back. There's a chain of events and due process that must occur to demolish a property if it isn't an imminent threat and that takes time to work through.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 10:26 am
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:16 am to Supermoto Tiger
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I bet the body is not a black man
What kind of money are we talking?
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:17 am to LSUFanHouston
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Kallais' long game is probably this.
1) Sweep the upper stage of the project. Keep the parking deck.
2) Get the city to demolish the three other historic properties he owns that are adjacent to this property.
3) Build bigger project.
Kallais isn't acting like he has any liability here, that's for sure.
he's just gonna push it off on the GC. HE didn't change the decking span sizes himself, after all.
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