I wasn’t implying we should be there or that I support being there. I was saying that using the argument that Iran has leverage and influence in Iraq (via their Shia identity) isn’t a good argument for why we should leave.

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Posted by Wtodd

Tampa, FL

Member since Oct 2013

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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:25 am to Manzielathon

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I was saying that using the argument that Iran has leverage and influence in Iraq (via their Shia identity) isn’t a good argument for why we should leave.

And I wasn't implying that either so if there was a misunderstanding this should clear it up.

I want our guys out of the ME like everyone else here.

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Posted by Champagne

Already Conquered USA.

Member since Oct 2007

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Posted on 1/9/20 at 1:14 pm to Manzielathon

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I wasn’t implying we should be there or that I support being there. I was saying that using the argument that Iran has leverage and influence in Iraq (via their Shia identity) isn’t a good argument for why we should leave.

If I understand history correctly, the USA did this, and it must have been intentional. The USA itself gave power over Iraq to Iran. The USA is the reason why Iran will control Iraq, if it does not already control Iraq.

USA grand strategy from beginning in 2003 was to de-Baath Iraq completely and suppress Sunni/Baath participation in the new Govt of Iraq. This ceded control of Iraq to the Shia.

As such, now that Iran has sufficient influence in Iraq, the Iraq govt now wants the USA out. Trump says we won't leave Iraq just now. I have no idea why. Iran's control over Iraq is certain, and the USA made this happen.

Why would the USA take affirmative action to hand over Iraq to terrorist nation Iran, and then REFUSE to leave Iraq as Iran assumes control over Iraq? Did the USA intentionally create a Forever War just to keep our military folks at war forever?

It makes no sense.

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