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re: "Subverting Expectations" (Ultra mild spoilers for a couple of movies)

Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by SHOtime Tiger
Member since Aug 2019
1361 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:25 pm to
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"Subverting Expectations This phrase is even worse than popcorn flick.


Respectfully disagree. It’s still a useful club in a filmmakers bag, but when it’s the only club you have it’s useless

Knives Out had good acting, a good plot, humor, and suspense along with subverting expectations (but very little).

Last Jedi used “subverting expecatations” 95% of the time and the other 5% was fan service with Luke and Yoda.

Rogue One basically did the opposite IMO but had much better acting, unfortunately from characters whose name I will never remember bc there story matters nothing to me even as a Star Wars fan.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67210 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:57 pm to
Rogue One certainly subverted the f$&k out of my expectations when all the leads

SPOILERS!!!



























died in the end
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39737 posts
Posted on 12/31/19 at 1:35 pm to
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Respectfully disagree
I'm not saying subverting expectations is bad. I am saying the only time you hear a director use the phrase, the movie was crap.

It is a cop out used by directors for their failed movies and shows. There have been 100s of great movies that had twists that subverted expectations that nobody on the planet has ever used that phrase to describe the movie.

It is only broken out by directors of recently failed movies and shows.
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