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re: Va Gov considers nationalizing the National Guard to enforce gun control.

Posted on 12/14/19 at 9:57 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 9:57 am to
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The national guard swears an oath to the United States not an individual state.


This is not entirely accurate. Until the President of the United States nationalizes those units, they fall under the purview of the individual governors. Legally speaking, the Virginia state government can indeed use the Virginia National Guard for the purposes of law and order.

Here's the rub...how many of them would actually agree to enforce what the Virginia state legislature is proposing? And with a Republican president in the White House, it's not beyond reason that he would nationalize Virginia's Guard units to prevent the governor from violating the Second Amendment rights of Virginians.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:00 am to
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how many of them would actually agree to enforce what the Virginia state legislature is proposing?


They don't have to follow illegal orders.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16644 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:06 am to
NG units can be used in three different statuses: Title 32, State Active Duty, and Title 10. In Title 32 and SAD they have the legal ability to be used in direct law enforcement activities (apprehension, surveillance, cfiminal searches, etc.). In Title 10 they can't even conduct traffic control, no DLEA except provide limited material and technical support to local law enforcement.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53503 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:32 am to
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This is not entirely accurate. Until the President of the United States nationalizes those units, they fall under the purview of the individual governors. Legally speaking, the Virginia state government can indeed use the Virginia National Guard for the purposes of law and order.

Here's the rub...how many of them would actually agree to enforce what the Virginia state legislature is proposing? And with a Republican president in the White House, it's not beyond reason that he would nationalize Virginia's Guard units to prevent the governor from violating the Second Amendment rights of Virginians.



This is 100% correct. Legally, all Trump would have to do is Federalize them immediately. And it would end that UNLESS THE NG refuses that order.

But the mere fact that a 100% controlled DEM legislature is telling you they are willing to do it.....

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