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Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:24 am to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57503 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:24 am to
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have mixed feelings about electric cars replacing the IC engines of today. I can’t defend it,
Cant defend it? It is easy to defend IC engines...... I can drive from coast to coast without having to wait hours while batteries charge. Where is the power coming from that charge all these cars... oohh yea burning fossil fuels. Dont be fooled into thinking all this electricity is made by wind turbines and solar panels. Look if officials really wanted the cleanest, most efficient power generation there is, there would be nuclear power plants everywhere.

oohh dont forget about all the plastics that had to be made from oil and refined to make all these electric batteries and parts for these cars/trucks. the footprint of an electric vehicle is way more than a normal vehicle.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28737 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:12 am to
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Where is the power coming from that charge all these cars... oohh yea burning fossil fuels. Dont be fooled into thinking all this electricity is made by wind turbines and solar panels. Look if officials really wanted the cleanest, most efficient power generation there is, there would be nuclear power plants everywhere.

oohh dont forget about all the plastics that had to be made from oil and refined to make all these electric batteries and parts for these cars/trucks. the footprint of an electric vehicle is way more than a normal vehicle.

I love you bro, but all this is pretty much 100% bullshite.

Even IF 100% of the electricity to charge your vehicle is from burning fossil fuels, the power plant is about twice as efficient at turning fossil fuels into miles as an ICE vehicle.

And the amount of plastic used in a vehicle is orders of magnitude less than what gets burned over the lifetime of an ICE. Like it's not even a drop in the bucket. Just one tank full is likely more than the amount used in plastic. But yeah, plastic is extremely useful. Shouldn't we stop burning so much of the stuff it's made from?!
Posted by Dr.Funke
Not a real Doctor
Member since Dec 2011
642 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:43 am to
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It is easy to defend IC engines...... I can drive from coast to coast without having to wait hours while batteries charge. Where is the power coming from that charge all these cars... oohh yea burning fossil fuels. Dont be fooled into thinking all this electricity is made by wind turbines and solar panels. Look if officials really wanted the cleanest, most efficient power generation there is, there would be nuclear power plants everywhere.

oohh dont forget about all the plastics that had to be made from oil and refined to make all these electric batteries and parts for these cars/trucks. the footprint of an electric vehicle is way more than a normal vehicle.


I doubt many truck buyers care about environmental impact. But if you do an ev is the way to go. While for now producing an ev has a slightly bigger environmental footprint it is offset within a year or about 5000 miles even when using fossil fuels as an energy source. The gap will only get bigger as renewable energy continues to grow and ice cars get less efficient as they age.

Tesla is the only one with a charging network. There newest supercharger that they are now installing and updating old charges takes less than an hour to charge. It peaks at about 1000 miles range per hour added now.
Though this is only for Tesla other EVs it would take hours to charge if you could even find a place to charge them.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:55 pm to
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oohh dont forget about all the plastics that had to be made from oil and refined to make all these electric batteries and parts for these cars/trucks. the footprint of an electric vehicle is way more than a normal vehicle


Nobody cares hippy
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