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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society

Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:17 pm to
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Hold on a second there lump of clay, your not in the position to tell the potter what he is and isn't going to do.
I'm not telling God what he will do. He's told us what He will do.

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Besides you've already agreed when you said since God gave us life it's perfectly within his objective moral to end someone's life.
It's within God's moral purview to judge sin, even through destroying sinners. He would be unjust not to punish sin at all since He is so holy.

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If you're still having a hard time imagining this just pretend you lived 3000 years ago, they were, according to your own belief system, living through exactly what I just described.

They couldn't even subjectively disagree.
God didn't command people to kill others very often. It was a special decree to accomplish a specific purpose. It also didn't mean that God's chosen people could kill whoever they wanted to for any reason as if they had special permission. God gave the people His law and set boundaries in regards to what they could and couldn't morally do. Murder wasn't something that people were (or are) allowed to do.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 7:56 pm to
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God didn't command people to kill others very often. It was a special decree to accomplish a specific purpose. It also didn't mean that God's chosen people could kill whoever they wanted to for any reason as if they had special permission. God gave the people His law and set boundaries in regards to what they could and couldn't morally do. Murder wasn't something that people were (or are) allowed to do.


Aka subjective morality

See: Elisha and the bears mauling dozens of children for calling him bald
This post was edited on 11/8/19 at 7:58 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21833 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 11:55 pm to
At the end of the day, if your God so chooses, he could kill, or have someone else kill, your entire family and, based on your current worldview, you couldn't condemn it as objectively or subjectively immoral.

I could have you defending genocide in a heartbeat by pointing to a few Old Testament verses, so don't come at us with this "Oh, you can't objectively condemn a school shooting as bad" crap when you're in the same boat.
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