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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society

Posted on 11/8/19 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 12:19 pm to
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Religions just didn't pop into existence from nowhere. They were passed down
That's ridiculous. If a religion can't "pop" into existence then how is there ever anything to "pass down"?
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And anthropologists have all agreed that the source of all things language, culture, farming, domestication of animals, metallurgy, etc all came from somewhere in Turkey. Guess what, so did all the worlds religions

Multiple cradles of civilization emerged independently of one another. Mesopotamia is one but there's also the Mesoamerican and Andean that developed culture, farming, and domestication independently of any Near East influence.
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Kurgans - founded in the Caucus mountains of Russia, Yeah that's right Buddha descended from the Caucasians, who went on to found a boatload of Christian religions.
You're using these terms way too loosely. "Kurgans" were not a people but a group of similar cultures that orginated from the Pontic Steppe which spanned many regions other than just the Caucasus and are certainly not known as the "Caucasians".
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So from Abraham, you can get to any religion by following his lineage

There's no evidence that an actual Abraham even existed, let alone anyone from which he's said to descend.

So, if all religion is from a single progenitor, which is highly unlikely considering the chronology of human migration patterns, language development, written records, and archaeology, it surely isn't anything resembling an Abrahamic one.

As an aside, the existence of a common "ancestor" does not preclude independent development of seperate branches.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27972 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 1:16 pm to
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That's ridiculous. If a religion can't "pop" into existence then how is there ever anything to "pass down"?

Wow, how dumb are you?

Three of the worlds largest religions trace their origins in great detail to a guy you say never existed. And he wasn't a member of any of those religions. His religious upbringing was an offshoot of whatever practices his ancestors followed. And much like Buddha, he went searching for a different truth and was led to Judaism. The rest is history

Let us not even get into the WELL DOCUMENTED trail of Judaism, becoming Catholicism, becoming Protestantism, becoming Baptists, Greek Orthodoxia, Mormons, Pentecostals, Episcopalians, Methodists, 7th day Adventists, snake handlers, Presbyterians, etc. You cant look at Judaism and see anything remotely akin to a snake handling church, but we know exactly how that happened.

Same thing with Buddhism, Confucius, Hindi, Christianity, paganism, Norse theology, etc. All evolved from the first religion observed by men.

I'm just sorry your instructors were intellectually dishonest with you
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 1:42 pm to
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Multiple cradles of civilization emerged independently of one another. Mesopotamia is one but there's also the Mesoamerican and Andean that developed culture, farming, and domestication independently of any Near East influence.

uh, seriously?

Mesoamerica and Andeans didn't come across the land bridge after LEAVING the fertile crescent? You might want to reread your source documents, friend.
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The earliest signs of a process leading to sedentary culture can be seen in the Levant to as early as 12,000 BC

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the Beringia land bridge was covered by the sea about 11,000 years BC

That's a full 1,000 years for an established sedentary culture to cross in the Americas and begin your so-called independent civilizations.
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