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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:27 am to goatmilker
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:27 am to goatmilker
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It's very Darwinian to take, rob, kill and do everything one can to promote one's own genes over any others by any means necessary.
Survival of the fittest.
If no God no morals.
I think athiest want religion around to make the world safer and just easier for them to bitch about religion lol.
I am an atheist. I don't crap on religion because life is hard, believe what gives you comfort in life. Just don't ask non believers to believe what they cannot believe.
However, my post is not about atheism it's about what is absolutely false in the above statements.
Some Atheist are assholes most are not, I'll try not to be.
First, Darwin wasn't a prophet, sage, or messiah. If you don't like an Atheist saying Dr. Jesus, don't say Darwinian. No intelligent human has ever worshiped at the cult of Darwin. Darwin was a naturalist who by reason, observations and evidence turned idea of evolution, a hypothesis that scientists were pursuing before Darwin was ever born, by proposing that natural processes rather than an artificial process was responsible for species transmutation i.e. evolution.
Darwin wasn't on a crusade against god. He just illustrated that different lifeforms are not the work of god or aliens or any other artificial force. Darwin showed it happens in nature and he provide compelling evidence of how the process happens in nature. This is what we know as natural selection. Life evolves and species thrive because the life most "fit" to reproduce in the natural world leaves more copies of itself. NATURE SELECTS the "fitness" of an organism fitness to reproduce.
Robbing raping and killing have nothing to do with an organism's ability to reproduce. Bro bacteria don't work out at the gym to impress the shorties back where ever bacteria hook up. Yet, NATURE SELECTS the fitness of bacteria to reproduce. Survival of the fittest is a phrase people who don't understand biology use to explain some generalization that involves a human activity that is by it's very nature unnatural.
Darwin is one of the great contributors to the collection of human knowledge because his work met the standard required by science that settled a debated hypothesis and made it a theory. That theory radically expanded human understanding of the "Origins of Life."
So, if you can't accept that supernatural forces aren't responsible for the various lifeforms, at least site more than one book if your going to try to disprove a mountain of evidence or better yet look at the "freaking evidence." Faith in God is not built on willful ignorance.
If no God no morals? Morals exist therefore must god exist? I don't need to explain the fallacy.
Did all the people that existed for 10s of millennia before monotheism rob, rape and kill to survive in a world with no morals?... Rhetorical question, if you still insist that there is no morality without a god, we're too far apart.
Atheists want religion around to make the world a better place of Atheists? I'll tell you that being an atheist isn't all it's cracked up to be in a world of believers. In Louisiana you might as well be a satanist, at least satanists look like their having fun. Ever had defend what you believe by evidence to people who literally don't want to hear any evidence. Ever had an Atheist try to convert you in an afterlife pyramid scheme? I know many atheists and most really don't care what you believe we'd just like you to be decent people and let not believe what we can't believe.
Here is something you might not know about many atheists, at least atheists that are good at math. We know with absolute certainty we could be wrong. We also know if we are wrong an all knowing all powerful creator of the universe is not going to trick us into damnation by spreading a bunch of evidence that says every religion can't be right wrong. However, if such a trickster god does exist, he's a really committed prankster, have fun with that eternity.
However, here's what is either going to piss people off regardless of believing. If you combine everything that every human being that has ever existed has known, the collection of everything ever known is infinitesimally small compared everything we don't know as human beings. ATHEIST OR BELIEVER YOU MUST LOOK AT THE UNKNOWN AND KNOW THERE IS NO HUMAN ON THIS EARTH THAT CAN THINK WITHOUT FAITH.
Believer's are willfully ignorant to believe nature hasn't equipped humans with any morals need to continue as a species. Atheists are willfully ignorant to believe you go about your life relying on intelligence, reason, evidence, but not faith like those unintelligent believers. Understand your own absurdity. Be a decent human being. Live and let live.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:22 pm to millerf43
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Believer's are willfully ignorant to believe nature hasn't equipped humans with any morals need to continue as a species. Atheists are willfully ignorant to believe you go about your life relying on intelligence, reason, evidence, but not faith like those unintelligent believers.
I haven't seen any theists claim that nature can't equip humans with morals. Of course it can, but they would be utilitarian, not based on good/evil, and they would be completely subjective.
One good working definition of "faith" is acting with incomplete knowledge. And you're right; everybody does that.
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