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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society

Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:17 pm to
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Nothing, but such a person won’t last very long in our society which is the point.
So what you're saying is that someone who is suicidal that wants to shoot up a school (for example) cannot be objectively condemned as acting immorally? We might not like it, but we can't condemn it. That is the logical conclusion to such a view of morality.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:23 pm to
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So what you're saying is that someone who is suicidal that wants to shoot up a school (for example) cannot be objectively condemned as acting immorally? We might not like it, but we can't condemn it. That is the logical conclusion to such a view of morality.


Correct

Such a person will be swiftly punished and his actions discouraged because they do damage the functionality of our society and disrupt accepted social norms, but without an objective moral standard such a thing can not be deemed objectively wrong. Now if we establish our current society as the best model for subjective human happiness constructed thus far you could argue there’s an objective reason to dissuade such actions but it’s an argument independent of moral truth.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:28 pm to
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So what you're saying is that someone who is suicidal that wants to shoot up a school (for example) cannot be objectively condemned as acting immorally? We might not like it, but we can't condemn it. That is the logical conclusion to such a view of morality.




You're in the same boat.

If there is a Bible story where someone slaughters a school because God commanded it you... "can't condemn it. That is the logical conclusion to such a view of morality."
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 3:29 pm
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