re: So what exactly is the main argument against universal healthcare

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failing at defending the current system of insurance

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congress permits by statute for blue cross to take more than twice off the top what meficare can use to run their operation.

No one can defend that use of our money once they get past that the nation as a whole is how you measure costs.

It already costs more to use the for profit system.

As engineering problem its obvious you have slack in the system that can either reduce cost or improve service levels in Medicare.

What little opposition there is to a govt system is based on guys wanting to pay off medical school off your backs.

Big pharma brags on research but research does not address or take into account when a company buys a company for its product thats already been invented and multiplies cost to you from $15 to $700 for epi pens.

No.one defends that well.

There are real issues with change. We already dont have enough providers.

Id like to see it not be a monopoly.
Just expand medicare by age down to 55.
In 5 years drop it another five. Voluntary.
Increase what medicare can charge at its upper limit.
Charge 3x for 100k+ earners.