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re: I think approximately HALF of white nationalists are leftists
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:17 am to K9Buck
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:17 am to K9Buck
Yeah, I'm sure half of the white nationalists voted for Obama... Wake tf up dude.
I see literal desperation on here by Republicans trying to deflect ownership for this racist movement emerging from the shadows which is being facilitated by the manchild their party put in the oval office.
Also there's not a damn single policy or plan being toted by any of the democratic presidential candidates that meets the actual definition of socialism... If you've been convinced otherwise you're a willfully ignorant person who hasn't attempted to educate themselves before speaking on the subject.
Grow some balls and face reality.
I see literal desperation on here by Republicans trying to deflect ownership for this racist movement emerging from the shadows which is being facilitated by the manchild their party put in the oval office.
Also there's not a damn single policy or plan being toted by any of the democratic presidential candidates that meets the actual definition of socialism... If you've been convinced otherwise you're a willfully ignorant person who hasn't attempted to educate themselves before speaking on the subject.
Grow some balls and face reality.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:25 am to bmy
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I think approximately 100% of your post is wrong
Many white nationalists are also socialists. Richard Spencer is very vocal about his support for socialism and hates the Bill of Rights, but yea he's "right" in American politics.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:26 am to Relax
Like I said, a lot of the white nationalists share leftist ideology on matters of economics and governance. Do you really believe they're ALL supporters of free-market capitalism and limited government? LOL. You'd also be surprised to read about some white nationalists who actually did support Obama.
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:28 am to Azkiger
Thank you. Correct. Richard Spencer, who may be the most influential and outspoken white nationalist in America is a self-described leftist. But since he's a white nationalist, the lying, liberal media labels him as "alt-right".
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:33 am to K9Buck
Er, uh
How are you right? You’re making stuff up.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:36 am to Azkiger
You are conflating safety net socialism with actual socialism and it's kind of pathetic
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:40 am to bmy
Specifically, what statement did I make that "conflated safety net socialism with actual socialism"?
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:40 am to K9Buck
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Nope. I've researched some white nationalists and discovered that many of them are socialists, communists and fascists, all of which are statist, left-wing ideologies.
Post some specifics to further your argument.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:46 am to K9Buck
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But since he's a white nationalist, the lying, liberal media labels him as "alt-right".
Uhhh, he claims to have coined the term “alt-right” and refers to his movement as “alt-right”. Did you miss that in your extensive research?
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:47 am to K9Buck
Cool
Can’t wait to read your extensive research on the subject.
Can’t wait to read your extensive research on the subject.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:53 am to K9Buck
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Richard Spencer, who may be the most influential and outspoken white nationalist in America is a self-described leftist.
Pretty sure that you might be one of the few people that Richard Spencer ever influenced.
Congrats, you are part of a small group.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:56 am to cwill
What viewpoints does Richard Spencer espouse that would align with mainstream, right-wing thought?
Posted on 8/5/19 at 7:56 am to K9Buck
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For starters, here's a brief interview he did wherein he expresses the leftist view that all rights come from the government and not from God, as many on the right believe.
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:03 am to Relax
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Also there's not a damn single policy or plan being toted by any of the democratic presidential candidates that meets the actual definition of socialism...
This might be one of the dumbest things I have read on this board.
And that says a lot
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:09 am to i am dan
Excerpts from Spencer's interview:
D’Souza gets Spencer to admit that all rights come from the state. Spencer shrugs off the idea of natural rights, opting for a statist opinion that “ultimately the state gives rights to you.” Spencer said he did not admire Reagan but instead looked to presidents Jackson and Polk as role models.
When confronted on Jackson being the founder of the Democratic party, Spencer demurred, “Party is just the vessel one uses,” Spencer replies.
Later in the film, Spencer admits that he could be aligned with the political views of a “progressive Democrat from the 1920s.” D’Souza eventually gets Spencer to identify as a “progressive” in his world views after explaining the roots of the Democratic party.
“I guess I’m a progressive,” Spencer says in the footage.
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D’Souza gets Spencer to admit that all rights come from the state. Spencer shrugs off the idea of natural rights, opting for a statist opinion that “ultimately the state gives rights to you.” Spencer said he did not admire Reagan but instead looked to presidents Jackson and Polk as role models.
When confronted on Jackson being the founder of the Democratic party, Spencer demurred, “Party is just the vessel one uses,” Spencer replies.
Later in the film, Spencer admits that he could be aligned with the political views of a “progressive Democrat from the 1920s.” D’Souza eventually gets Spencer to identify as a “progressive” in his world views after explaining the roots of the Democratic party.
“I guess I’m a progressive,” Spencer says in the footage.
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:17 am to Lgrnwd
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This might be one of the dumbest things I have read on this board.
The truth would be pretty dumb to me also if it destroyed my ignorant narrative.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:23 am to i am dan
FWIW, here's an article that discusses David Duke coming to the defense of Representative Ilhan Omar over her criticisms of Israel. One thing white nationalists and many leftists have in common is a mutual hatred of Israel.
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This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 10:10 am
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:26 am to K9Buck
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Tom Metzger
Who: Director, White Aryan Resistance Likes: White people, karaoke, environmentalists
Dislikes: Race-mixing, Jews, the federal government, capitalism
Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan in the 70s; won the Democratic primary during his bid for Congress in 1980; appeared on the episode of Geraldo Rivera's show in 1988 when Rivera's nose was broken in a brawl.
Was this dude's profile on AryansMingle.com?
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:47 am to Relax
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Also there's not a damn single policy or plan being toted by any of the democratic presidential candidates that meets the actual definition of socialism
Eliminating private health insurance?
"Nationalizing" CO2 emissions to the point cows and airplanes will be eliminated?
If those aren't socialist policies, they will do until "real" socialism comes along.
FFS...
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