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re: New York Area Fire Commissioners Make History, Call for New 9/11 Investigation
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:08 pm to Dale51
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:08 pm to Dale51
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The official excuse for the collapse of Bldg #7
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What conclusions that were presented do you find to be false?
Well Larry Siverstein said "well there's was such a terrible loss of life, we decided to 'pull it'. 'Pull it' is a controlled demo phrase.
YT
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:09 pm to Shepherd88
quote:im guess you know how the twin towers were designed? I do.... Im wondering if you do.
Jet fuel wouldn’t make the steel beams slice in half and a building fall vertically demolition style.
Jet Fuel would melt the beams to a point where they would bend under pressure and fall sideways.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:11 pm to Wtodd
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Are there pics that show this gap?
Yes. From police helicopters.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:11 pm to Wtodd
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Well Larry Siverstein said "well there's was such a terrible loss of life, we decided to 'pull it'. 'Pull it' is a controlled demo phrase.
So easily debunked. Such a sign of a lack of research skills by the conspiracists.
NO DEMOLITION CREWS EVER use the phrase "Pull It" in any way, shape, or form. YOU ARE FAKE NEWS!
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:13 pm to Wtodd
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Go on......
Money and fame are as far as it needs to go...unless you think these "investigations" would be cost free?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:16 pm to Ag Zwin
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Not sure which actually failed, but shear or tension would have caused failure long before compression/buckling.
I agree.
After the first level fall onto the one below it, the collapse is even faster. That said, the buildings did not free fall.
This post was edited on 7/31/19 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:17 pm to the808bass
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No conspiracy theorist in the history of ever has ever done so.
I agree.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:17 pm to JPinLondon
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So easily debunked. Such a sign of a lack of research skills by the conspiracists. NO DEMOLITION CREWS EVER use the phrase "Pull It" in any way, shape, or form. YOU ARE FAKE NEWS
OK Einstein then what did he mean by 'pull it'? What could they actually 'pull'?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:17 pm to cajunangelle
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never looked into all the rumors of stories that some were not in the building that day and had insurance. Even snopes half way admits this.
I don't know about that angle. I've heard similar things. What's not up for debate is that the NYPD and FBI caught undeclared Israeli Agents with apparent foreknowledge of the event, filming it and celebrating. Much information has been obtained through FOIA, despite their attempts to redact it
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:19 pm to Dale51
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unless you think these "investigations" would be cost free?
No
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Money and fame are as far as it needs to go
How are they going to MAKE any money on this? Fame? More like ridicule
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:19 pm to Wtodd
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Well Larry Siverstein said "well there's was such a terrible loss of life, we decided to 'pull it'. 'Pull it' is a controlled demo phrase.
That is a meme.
The "pull it" refers to the firefighting effort.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:20 pm to Wtodd
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OK Einstein then what did he mean by 'pull it'? What could they actually 'pull'?
The fricking FIRE CREW that was trying to save the building!!!
How do you conspiracists NOT open-mindedly take the most obvious answer? You think Silverstein was giving an order, ON-CAMERA, to use the "secret explosives"??? Seriously, and I mean this with all due respect… how could you be that stupid to believe that?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:21 pm to Wtodd
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OK Einstein then what did he mean by 'pull it'? What could they actually 'pull'?
The team of firefighters.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:23 pm to Dale51
quote:well tiger stadium created an earthquake in the soft soild around LSU just by cheering.
Something went on with that one.
Maybe the 20 story structural gap created by the falling debris had something to do with it?
extrapolate that to having around 500,000 tons falling from the sky onto the ground across the street. IMHO that would cause a pretty massive shake in the ground similar to an earth quake. Now, that happened twice. It seems pretty plausible a next door building could have crumbled from that force.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:23 pm to Nguyener
quote:No.
You can't see that conversation happening behind the scenes somewhere?
Further, the collapses each initiated at the fire level.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:24 pm to Wtodd
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How are they going to MAKE any money on this? Fame? More like ridicule
Same way a politician makes money from a movement. Speaking engagements, funding to their offices needed from the extra work, etc.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:24 pm to Dale51
quote:do yall even torsional local buckling, bro?
Not sure which actually failed, but shear or tension would have caused failure long before compression/buckling.
I agree.
After the first level fall onto the one below it, the collapse is even faster. That said, the buildings did not free fall.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:25 pm to MrCarton
yeah I am gonna havta ask for a link for this.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:25 pm to JPinLondon
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How do you conspiracists
So if someone questions any "official story" they're a conspiracy theorist?
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You think Silverstein was giving an order, ON-CAMERA, to use the "secret explosives"???
Not sure if serious but this interview was AFTER 9/11.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:26 pm to JPinLondon
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You think Silverstein was giving an order, ON-CAMERA, to use the "secret explosives"??? Seriously, and I mean this with all due respect… how could you be that stupid to believe that?
Not only that, but from the first signs of the loss of structural integrity to the actual collapse was over 4 hours. Thats one mighty slow controlled demolition!
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