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re: Question for OB in regards to suppressor and SOT

Posted on 7/30/19 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 4:38 pm to
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until approved. Once its all good they start, seems like a gun show was in the way of that. And yes serial# in with app and if not used because of denial can be used for the next man up. Just like it would if you bought a premade can and get denied.



Yeah, that's not the way it works. When you file an ATF form you are attesting that you are in possession of the item listed and that you wish to transfer it. In fact, the Form 2 would have had to be filed giving notice that the item had previously been manufactured just for the Serial Number to be in the NFRTR in order to file a Form 4. Pre-filing a bunch of numbers without having the items manufactured is a serious Regulatory No-No. It was tried, and a bunch of people lost FFL's over it, back when the Assault Weapons Ban came down. People filed that they had manufactured pre-ban AR receivers on hand when they in fact did not. Same thing applies X10 with NFA items.

Pretty sure that isn't what happened here.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 5:39 pm
Posted by 1860pissed
Dunleith
Member since Feb 2013
260 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 5:04 pm to
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When you file an ATF form you are attesting that you are in possession of the item listed and that you wish to transfer it. In fact, the Form 2 would have had to be filed giving notice that the item had previously been manufactured just for the Serial Number to be in the NFRTR in order to file a Form 4


This is absolutely correct. I can almost guarantee I know what shop you’re talking about and I’ve seen them do lots of things below board when it comes to ATF compliance if it’s the same one I’m thinking of ??
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 7:41 pm to
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In fact, the Form 2 would have had to be filed giving notice that the item had previously been manufactured
Sounds like the best thing to do is just bite your tongue and wait it out. They have already painted themselves into a corner if they don't build and transfer the item. I wouldn't risk getting an inferior product from a butt hurt dealer over a few days when it's already been a year.
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1891 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 7:35 am to
Gleason i'm not saying its the right thing to do according to ATF regs. What I'm saying is that is the way some custom gun shops do it. You'd be surprised at what you don't know happens at these places. And yes that is exactly what happened here. Its a text book custom shop practice
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