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re: Way too early projections for where Burrow goes in the Draft?

Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:53 pm to
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This is honestly mind blowing. How anyone could possibly think the HC has no input in the offseason program run by the S&C coach is insane.
All NCAA rules do not appear to to be sane. This one is actually a good rule, put in place because of a small but significant number of HCs who were way out of line with offseason workouts - and used S&C coaches as go-betweens to dodge the old offseason rules.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:00 pm to
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How anyone could possibly think the HC has no input in the offseason program run by the S&C coach is insane.


I'm honestly not even sure what tight rope this clown is trying to walk regarding Moffit.

On the one hand, he seems to dislike Moffit and thinks he's a bad fit. On the other, he seems to not think Orgeron is therefore responsible for keeping this terrible fit at LSU.

He also attempted to indicate that he was merely a holdover from Miles, without having any clue at all that Tommy's been here for nearly 2 decades having been an original Saban hire at LSU. meaning 3 different LSU HC's have seemed to think that he was good enough to keep around.

Now he's attempting to make it look like Moffit is running some rouge dark camp where Orgeron is clueless as to what's going on and has no say so in what's going on with his team.

My guess is this is simply a means to help insulate Orgeron if the season turns out poorly...that if only Moffit hadn't been left to his own devices things would have worked out better. You can already see this generally with the JUGGS nonsense discussion...

At some point you put the fricking shovel down, right?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:02 pm to
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So you’re saying it would be a violation for O to tell Moffit “we’re running a fast pace offense, make sure they’re conditioned”

Or “open the jugg room for the WRs”

Would probably depend on how he phrased it and when he said it.

And also how the NCAA is currently ruling on Jugs machine type issues.

My understanding is that Ohio State handled it through team leaders and justifiably called it "voluntary workouts" - WRs Campbell, Dixon, and McLaurin organized the receivers for daily workouts. S&C coach Marotti set up a semi-permanent area with Jugs machines and gave the WRs keys.

The voluntary aspect pretty much exempted Ohio St from any NCAA issues. The Jugs setup was just to accommodate the voluntary workouts.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67815 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:07 pm to
You’ve been claiming for weeks that the WRs have been trying to get Jug machine across and Moffit says NO

So the voluntary aspect doesn’t seem to be an issue.

So what rule would O violate saying, give the players keys.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:14 pm to
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You’ve been claiming for weeks that the WRs have been trying to get Jug machine across and Moffit says NO
That's a half-truth, and you know it. Does not reflect what I said,

If you "LSU Fans" are Hell bent to have grossly under-practiced WR's, then you'll likely get your wish.


Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93963 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:24 pm to
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If you "LSU Fans" are Hell bent to have grossly under-practiced WR's, then you'll likely get your wish.

How come Orgeron hasn't addressed this issue since he was named interim head coach in 2016?

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67815 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:25 pm to
We just think everything your saying is BS

The only person saying they can’t work with the machines is you.

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:30 pm to
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How come Orgeron hasn't addressed this issue since he was named interim head coach in 2016?


He too wants under-practiced WR's?
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:34 pm to
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Sounds like you may be a bit obsessed.


quote:

No. I'm just not great understanding the english language.


FIFY joe.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93963 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:36 pm to
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He too wants under-practiced WR's?

Maybe Canada, Ensminger, Mickey Joseph, Sullivan and Joe Brady all feel the same as well since I'm assuming they haven't brought it to anyone's attention either.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:37 pm to
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He too wants under-practiced WR's?



Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:40 pm to
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Maybe Canada, Ensminger, Mickey Joseph, Sullivan and Joe Brady all feel the same as well since I'm assuming they haven't brought it to anyone's attention either.

Beckham and Landry made a pretty big media splash by revealing that they had to break in to get Jugs reps.

It's "all better" now? That's not what I'm hearing.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67815 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:40 pm to
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All NCAA rules do not appear to to be sane. This one is actually a good rule, put in place because of a small but significant number of HCs who were way out of line with offseason workouts - and used S&C coaches as go-betweens to dodge the old offseason rules.


I like that you post about how no one knows how the boosters run every major program but then you also wanna act like HCs don’t absolutely use their S&Cs as go betweens for the off season workouts.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:42 pm to
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I like that you post about how no one knows how the boosters run every major program but then you also wanna act like HCs don’t absolutely use their S&Cs as go betweens for the off season workouts.


Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93963 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Beckham and Landry made a pretty big media splash by revealing that they had to break in to get Jugs reps.

It's "all better" now? That's not what I'm hearing.

What are you hearing as to why Coach O hasn't addressed this issue?

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67815 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:56 pm to
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Beckham and Landry made a pretty big media splash by revealing that they had to break in to get Jugs reps.


The “broke in” on Friday nights according to 1 coach.

Do you think they were smashing windows?
Jumping electric fences?

Guys are always “breaking” into gyms to shoot hoops and shot like that.

You’re the only one who thinks Moffit has these machines under lock and key otherwise.

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:01 pm to
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What are you hearing as to why Coach O hasn't addressed this issue?
I haven't heard anything on that. You heard anything?

But if Moffitt is still as tone-deaf to WRs practice needs as he was a few years ago with Landry and Beckham, then nothing much will happen until Fall practice starts.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93963 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:05 pm to
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I haven't heard anything on that. You heard anything?

Just a lot of bullshite on the matter.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67815 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:06 pm to
The part of the story you forget to mention is that Landry and Beckham uses the machines so much they broke one.

Again do you think they were breaking windows or picking locks to get in?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39994 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:08 pm to
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But if Moffitt is still as tone-deaf to WRs practice needs as he was a few years ago with Landry and Beckham, then nothing much will happen until Fall practice starts.


Holy shite this thread is remarkable
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