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re: Should illegal immigrants be counted on the census?

Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:05 pm to
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The original intent was representation of US citizens.


No it wasn't and the language provides you with no support whatsoever.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:07 pm to
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No it wasn't and the language provides you with no support whatsoever.



Except where it specifically says "citizen".
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:22 pm to
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The original intent was representation of US citizens.

No it wasn't and the language provides you with no support whatsoever.


On that you are correct. After some digging around I found the original text:

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expenses shall be supplied by the several states in proportion to the whole number of white and other free inhabitants, of every age, sex, and condition, including those bound to servitude for a term of years, and three fifths of all other persons not comprehended in the foregoing description, except Indians not paying taxes in each state.


So originally it does appear that the census was to collect information about all peoples (except Indians) within the country.

As I stated earlier in the thread though, I believe they should be counted, but deliniated out when it comes to apportionment of Congressional districts and I believe the Constitution supports that stance.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:32 pm to
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No it wasn't and the language provides you with no support whatsoever.


It was obviously implied. At the birth of this country, it wasn't even known to be attractive for foreigners to sneak into.
You're trying to project the reasoning's of the 21st century to the constructing of a foundation of a country. The simple mindedness of the 21st century "Like ..yeah, dude...whatever, maan.... no human is illegal you bigot" was not even possible to the serious minded principles of the times.
Just my opinion...others may feel differently.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 6:43 pm
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