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re: Why do people think that American doctors are better than other countries?
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:29 am to cyarrr
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:29 am to cyarrr
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According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.
Other studies report much higher figures, claiming the number of deaths from medical error to be as high as 440,000. The reason for the discrepancy is that physicians, funeral directors, coroners and medical examiners rarely note on death certificates the human errors and system failures involved. Yet death certificates are what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention rely on to post statistics for deaths nationwide.
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Doctors are prone to drug and alcohol abuse. It's estimated that rates of addiction among the general population run from 8% to 10%; among physicians, the rates start at 10% and rise to 15%.
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More recently, a 2012 study of American surgeons published in JAMA Surgery found 15.4 percent suffered from an alcohol use disorder. Female surgeons (25.6 percent) were more likely than male surgeons (13.9 percent) to exhibit symptoms of alcohol addiction.
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Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:40 am to Kujo
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Med school isn’t like other professional or graduate programs which are plagued by high attrition rates. Graduate school for example has an average of 20-40% attrition rate depending on the program. Medical school has around a 4-6% attrition rate total which means that when you’re accepted to medical school you have a 95% chance of becoming a doctor.
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Medical schools don’t want to kick you out, so you’ll get many chances if you fail. These policies vary school to school but are generally quite similar. Most schools will assign you a tutor (typically at no extra charge) if they see you are performing subpar, even if you’re not failing. One failed test is usually harmless if you end up passing the class as a whole, but it will likely trigger some sort of observation to make sure you’re not falling behind. Remediation exams are offered after a failed course and may replace one test or may be an assessment of the entire course. If you pass you will usually get the lowest passing score possible for that course but you continue on your way. If you fail again or fail another course in the future you may have to go in front of the promotions committee. Here they will assess whether you’re doing so poorly that you’d benefit from doing the entire year again or if a remediation exam is appropriate. They typically don’t “recommend withdrawal” after failing one year, but failing the same year twice is going to put you in hot water. Some states have a requirement for you to pass in a certain amount of time so this may change how lenient they are with you. Students who fail a year generally try to use the time to either study or do research in their off time because they’re aware their transcript won’t look as good with a failed year.
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Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:33 am to Kujo
I didn't open your links, but from your quotes, unless I misread, I only see studies regarding U.S. doctors. How do they compare with doctors similarly situated in other parts of the world?
Additionally, did you consider the possibility that it may be more difficult to get into medical schools in the US, that generally only the most qualified applicants are accepted and thus the school has a vested interest in retaining students who they enroll?
Moreover, what does the attrition rate have to do with the quality of training and the doctors who graduate from the program? I'm sure the majority of prestigious professional schools in the U.S and the world for that matter also have low attrition rates.
Additionally, did you consider the possibility that it may be more difficult to get into medical schools in the US, that generally only the most qualified applicants are accepted and thus the school has a vested interest in retaining students who they enroll?
Moreover, what does the attrition rate have to do with the quality of training and the doctors who graduate from the program? I'm sure the majority of prestigious professional schools in the U.S and the world for that matter also have low attrition rates.
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