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re: For those who are pro choice: At what point do you feel a fetus becomes a human being?
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:21 pm to helluvaday
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:21 pm to helluvaday
quote:but this has nothing to do with the genetic viability of the fetus. iow, if the implantation were successful, then the overall process of mitosis could continue normally.
a fertilized egg implanting anywhere but the uterus is not viable. The fallopian tubes for example are not capable of holding a growing embryo; thus, the fertilized egg in a tubal pregnancy cannot develop properly
quote:you're saying that the time from fertilization to implantation is an acceptable time to abort but, it could be that the fetus is genetically viable and if allowed to implant, it would result in a successful birth. thus, it should not be considered acceptable to abort at that point on the basis that it's not a person. it absolutely could be provided implantation is allowed and happens successfully.
I don't see how my previous statement could seem like sophistry at all
quote:this has been answered this definitively. there is no personhood gap between parents and offspring. as for the purely biological, there isn't a definitive way to tell if the fetus is viable until AFTER implantation and sufficient time for development, which is 10-12 weeks. even so, heartbeat and brain activity can be detected before that time in most cases.
Isn't the question when I, as a pro-choice person, feel a fetus becomes a human being?
what i fail to understand is why pro choice people don't err on the side of caution. this is a potential human being we're talking about. they should be given the benefit of the doubt. not affording them that is just criminal
quote:and i explained how this is a serious limitation in worldview. to not do so sells humanity short. heck, even epigenetic considerations should cause pro life people to reconsider their positions but, no one ever accused pro lifers of being rational on the matter
While you may consider the metaphysical in your beliefs, I do not
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:26 pm to bfniii
They're trying to run cover with linguistics/semantics on playing the lava/magma game with baby/fetus. Just check that NPR guide thread from earlier today.
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