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So just how stupid is this Clown show by Nadler

Posted on 5/10/19 at 7:47 pm
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87064 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 7:47 pm
For those that are unaware, there are a set of laws for Federal Criminal Procedure.

In these laws is one titled 6(e)

6(e) states

quote:

Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure establishes a "General Rule of Secrecy" providing that certain persons, including attorneys for the Government(1), "shall not disclose matters occurring before the grand jury, except as otherwise provided in these rules."


LINK

Now besides the obvious, why is this important? Well because 6(e) is Congress's own law. Meaning, they have the power to amend it... right now. The Democrats have the power right now to make a two-line amendment that would authorize the disclosure of content from a special investigation.

Instead, they play the victim, vote to hold the AG in contempt and continue down the path to clown world.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35095 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

Now besides the obvious, why is this important? Well because 6(e) is Congress's own law. Meaning, they have the power to amend it... right now. The Democrats have the power right now to make a two-line amendment that would authorize the disclosure of content from a special investigation.

I assume POTUS still has to sign it, but that wouldn't be the reason why they aren't giving that a whirl....instead it's because there really is no reasonable basis that they could provide for doing such. Absent that....they'd just be trying to change the rules of the game for a mere fishing expedition. Not a good look.
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 7:54 pm to
munchkin from the wizard of oz
Posted by Miner
Birmingport
Member since Nov 2017
1485 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 7:56 pm to
I was reading up on Nadler's comments about the Starr report. If I read it correctly, Congress already had the entire report and supporting documents. He was concerned about how much should be made public.

Still think he's a piece of shite, but he is actually correct about all of Congress getting the full report.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33190 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 7:57 pm to
If they had any fricking stones they’d inpeach him. Dems are all about innuendo but are bitch made punks when it comes to action
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:00 pm to
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Still think he's a piece of shite, but he is actually correct about all of Congress getting the full report.



well then all they need to do is repeal their own goddamn law
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87064 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:09 pm to
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If they had any fricking stones they’d inpeach him. Dems are all about innuendo but are bitch made punks when it comes to action



I disagree. imo they know that they will have the public turn on them if they move to impeachment trials.
They need to do everything they can to discredit Barr and is why you saw the clown show of current candidates bringing up old and current cases Barr is looking into and asked if he would recuse himself from those cases.

Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:13 pm to
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this Clown show by Nadler


Posted by wolftiger
Covington
Member since Feb 2006
531 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:15 pm to
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He is correct about all of congress getting the full report.


Nuh-uh
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:17 pm to
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Still think he's a piece of shite, but he is actually correct about all of Congress getting the full report.


The thing is that the Starr report was done under the previous Independent Counsel rules that were allowed to sunset (so it wouldn't happen again) and there was a bipartisan group that came up with the new regulations which forms the basis and procedures of the special counsel position.
LINK
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Mr. Chairman, Representative Nadler, and Members of the Committee:

We appreciate your invitation to appear before this committee as it considers the special counsel regulations that were issued by the Attorney General on June 30 to replace procedures which expired with the sunset that day of the Independent Counsel Act.

Earlier this year we participated in a bipartisan project, which was chaired by former Senate Leaders Bob Dole and George Mitchell and assisted by the American Enterprise Institute and The Brookings Institution, to recommend actions that Congress and the Executive Branch might take upon the Act’s impending sunset. . . .


quote:

As for “notifications and reports” (section 600.9) from the Attorney General to Congress, the order states (64 Fed. Reg. 37041) that the required reports would be “brief notifications, with an outline of the actions and the reasons for them.” As noted earlier, the Attorney General’s report at the conclusion of a special counsel’s investigation is to include (section 600.9(a)(3)) “a description and explanation” of any times in which the Attorney General countermanded a proposed action by a special counsel because it was “so inappropriate or unwarranted under established Departmental practices that it should not be pursued.”

Apart from that specific element of the Attorney General’s report at the end of an investigation, it is not altogether clear what that final report will contain. The discussion under section 600.8(c), on a special counsel’s closing report to the Attorney General, suggests (64 Fed. Reg. 37041) that consideration will be given to “[t]he interests of the public in being informed of and understanding the reasons for the actions of the Special Counsel.” As stated in the discussion under section 600.9(c) (at 64 Fed. Reg. 37041), another objective that may shape the content of the Attorney General’s report at the end of an investigation is the goal of helping to “ensure congressional and public confidence in the integrity of the process.”
Posted by Miner
Birmingport
Member since Nov 2017
1485 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:25 pm to
Thanks for that post. I'm trying to read as much as I can on it. Have been trying to find articles on the differences between the independent counsel and special counsel.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:37 pm to
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Thanks for that post. I'm trying to read as much as I can on it. Have been trying to find articles on the differences between the independent counsel and special counsel.


No problem, you're very welcome. It wasn't easy to find and it's interesting and informative to see the reasoning behind why Congress adopted the current regulations for the special counsel.

I started looking after reading an opinion piece from Kenneth Starr on why he released the Starr Report and why it wouldn't happen these days. Then I dug into Congressional records and then started searching words, phrases, titles and eventually found that testimony from the Brookings Institute.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46122 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:48 pm to
I fully believe had he produced the subpoenaed material, they would have tried to charge him for violating title 6e. That's how clownish and unhinged they've become.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24102 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:58 pm to
Buckeye vol will be here to tell you that a couple tds infected legal minds disagree with long standing law and it's appropriate to provide that information.
Posted by Big scrimp
Member since Dec 2018
58 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:02 pm to
If you are a democrat, you are one of the dumbest living things on earth, plants are more intelligent than you
Posted by Miner
Birmingport
Member since Nov 2017
1485 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:13 pm to
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Kenneth Starr on why he released the Starr Report and


I just read that. Very good.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:26 pm to
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munchkin from the wizard of oz


Yup. Total Lollipop Guild.
Posted by Sid E Walker
BackdoorU ©
Member since Nov 2013
25148 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:31 pm to
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they play the victim,...and continue down the path to clown world.

They’ve been in clown world for 25 years. They’re there.
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
3364 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:32 pm to
Nadler is great for the Republican Party. Even liberals can see that he is a hugely obese NY douchebag who ignores the important needs of our country to chase and harass DJT. He is a total swamp dweller politician who turns off everyone. I hope he and Pelosi stay front and center.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11601 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 7:30 am to
Bad facts make bad law. Dems didn't like the Starr report so they pass a law to redact further reports. Meuller report gets redacted by their law, they bitch that it isn't fair. Time to repeal it so the next special counsel can blast the next Democrat president if we are ever unfortunate enough to see that. Very short sighted politicians.
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