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re: Couple Kicked Off Plane for Ignoring In-Flight Safety Briefing

Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:25 am to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171080 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:25 am to
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What about the second bolded portion of that?



I addressed that. It isn't a valid command to instruct someone to do something that isn't required.

If you aren't required to do action A and command from someone for you to perform action A can be ignored.

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But they got kicked off for being striver assholes and I'm ok with it.


For sure, but it's all based on the opinion of the crew so that's a slippery arse slope.
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 11:26 am
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79325 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:28 am to
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I addressed that. It isn't a valid command to instruct someone to do something that isn't required.



I mean, if you can stop someone from flying if they don't follow the crew's instructions, how is the command invalid. There are two sources of authority here, what the regulations require and what the crew instructs.

They didn't follow the latter and got the boot.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6393 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:32 am to
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If you aren't required to do action A and command from someone for you to perform action A can be ignored.


Based on? If you're not required to do Action A, but you are required to do Action B, what happens when your obligation to Action B requires you to perform Action A.

Unless the obligation would lead to an illegal act, it could be argued that Action B supersedes Action A.
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