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Software is the death of basically every great hardware design. Most common day systems are not running low level code, they are running some sort of operating system like linux. So the code that actually runs on your router is just some program running on a linux kernel. It is abstracted away and not running on "bare metal". Obviously this makes the code much easier to write at the cost of performance. That is the direction it will always go because we have the horsepower today.

You're acting like this is new and it isn't. These routers have been running Linux forever. I mean the famous WRT54G released in 2003 was Linux based.

Then you compare an embedded Linux device that's never touched by a user to a Windows box. Why? Windows is known for its cruft and degrading performance over time, Linux isn't. Linux is known for rock solid uptimes. And most people don't upgrade their router firmware and even when they do it's not common for router manufacturers to add new features, only fix bugs.

And on top of that if it really were a software issue you'd just wipe the router and start fresh and get that performance, but that's not the case.

So no. Nothing to do with software.

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Posted by UltimaParadox

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Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:14 pm to efrad

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These routers have been running Linux forever. I mean the famous WRT54G released in 2003 was Linux based.

The WRT54G did run a build based off of linux, however it was a very small subset, built specifically for Broadcom micros. Similar to what you find with micro Linux for embedded systems. The board literally only had 16 megs of RAM! Some later versions actually used VxWorks for its OS.

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Then you compare an embedded Linux device that's never touched by a user to a Windows box. Why?

I made this comparison so people would understand it easier, however I will concede that it was not an apples to apples comparison.

However, this is much different then some modern routers that are running almost full linux distros with loads of features. There is a reason why a lot of times rebooting modern routers fixes various issues.

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And on top of that if it really were a software issue you'd just wipe the router and start fresh and get that performance, but that's not the case.

So no. Nothing to do with software.

I did not make that broad generalization. So saying it clearly not a software issue is not a good idea either.

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