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Trans troops return to era of 'don't ask, don't tell' as Trump policy takes effect

Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:15 pm
SIAP. I looked back a few pages and didn't see anything. Article is salty AF.

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The new policy bars military members who have transitioned or are openly trans from enlisting after Friday, while troops who come out as trans while serving after that day will be discharged.
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In reality, trans healthcare has been a small fraction of the military’s health budget, with one analysis estimating that the military spends roughly five times as much on Viagra alone than on transition-related care for trans troops. The American Medical Association has criticized Trump’s argument, saying it misrepresents science.

One surgery is too many and Viagra doesn't cause a service member to be non-deployable (aka: useless) for most of their enlistment.
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She feared that many other troops who were not yet ready to come out would suffer, saying she had personally recently spoken to a colleague who had decided to keep his identity a secret.


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Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:16 pm to
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Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17654 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:19 pm to
Can we make the whole trans 'movement' "don't ask, don't tell?"
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37370 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:30 pm to
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Can we make the whole trans 'movement' "don't ask, don't tell?"
They cry in the article about having to live a "double life". Newsflash: most people in the military live double lives to an extent.
This post was edited on 4/13/19 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:32 pm to
A tranny could never keep their mouth shut.
It’s part of the malady.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:36 pm to
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She feared that many other troops who were not yet ready to come out would suffer, saying she had personally recently spoken to a colleague who had decided to keep his identity a secret.


Umm... who gives a crap? Really. Why is that even something that should be considered?
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
27867 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:42 pm to
For one, the military isn't a social engineering experiment; the focus should be on training and preparing to wage war on our enemies. Two, no one has the right to join simply because they want to. You have to meet mental, physical and psychological requirements. If you can't do that, tough shite, choose a different path.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9954 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:44 pm to
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For one, the military isn't a social engineering experiment; the focus should be on training and preparing to wage war on our enemies. Two, no one has the right to join simply because they want to. You have to meet mental, physical and psychological requirements. If you can't do that, tough shite, choose a different path.


I was about to post this.

Not every profession is meant for every person.

And I support gays and trans
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37370 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:44 pm to
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A tranny could never keep their mouth shut.
It’s part of the malady.
And the concept is so simple. Put on your uniform, conform to regs, follow orders, and wear all the lipstick you want at home or when you get out. It's not about the individual. It's not a motivational summer camp program to make you feel warm and fuzzy.

eta- basically what Saint Alfonzo posted^^
This post was edited on 4/13/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:46 pm to
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You have to meet mental, physical and psychological requirements


Seems like being a man who thinks he's really a she or a woman who think she's a he or one whose sex varies from day to day would automatically cause one to fail two of the three requirements.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:48 pm to
Citizens who are mentally ill cannot serve as it is. This policy makes zero changes.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
27867 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:51 pm to
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Seems like being a man who thinks he's really a she or a woman who think she's a he or one whose sex varies from day to day would automatically cause one to fail two of the three requirements.


I probably should have used intelligence instead of mental.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Saint Alfonzo


Thank you. Good post that is spot on. I was about to post the same thing. Upvote.
Posted by Port Royal
You Name It , I've Been There
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/13/19 at 1:56 pm to
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the military isn't a social engineering experiment


That's the crux of a Liberal's soul. Everything is a social engineering experiment.
Posted by WesternChauvinist
Member since Sep 2018
445 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 2:04 pm to
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For one, the military isn't a social engineering experiment; the focus should be on training and preparing to wage war on our enemies. Two, no one has the right to join simply because they want to. You have to meet mental, physical and psychological requirements. If you can't do that, tough shite, choose a different path.


Exactly. Trannys are mentally ill and should not be walking the street among normal society. Anyone who wants to mutilate themselves because they believe they should have been born differently is insane. They have zero place in the military, much less a place where they can have their operations paid for while they sit on the retirement benefit clock and avoid contributing to the mission.

I just punched out of the USAF last year at 11 years. Didn't even want to sit in the reserves for 9 more years to get retirement. That's how bad I wanted out. The command climate is bad. CCs are afraid to do anything that will derail a career, so the JAG O3 that is the Chief of Mil Justice in the wing legal office pretty much dictates discipline, which is dictated by the NAF and MAJCOM legal offices. Non rated JAGs, who are vastly leftist in political leaning, control the show in the USAF. As a result, pilots punch out the minute they can and you have a service branch run by "officers" who are essentially federal bureaucrats in uniform.

The Obama years were bad. The worst kind of officers got promoted. Sycophants, arse kissers, box checkers. Nothing that normies who have never served want to think of the military as being.

Don't get me wrong, the USAF is lethal as frick, but there are no Curtis LeMays or Robin Olds in there anymore.

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37370 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 2:06 pm to
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Exactly. Trannys are mentally ill and should not be walking the street among normal society. Anyone who wants to mutilate themselves because they believe they should have been born differently is insane. They have zero place in the military, much less a place where they can have their operations paid for while they sit on the retirement benefit clock and avoid contributing to the mission.
That's without even touching on sharing a range or deploying with a demographic that has a 40% suicide rate.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
27867 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 2:09 pm to
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The Obama years were bad. The worst kind of officers got promoted. Sycophants, arse kissers, box checkers. Nothing that normies who have never served want to think of the military as being.


I'm glad I got out before the Obama years.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 2:12 pm to
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Everything is a social engineering experiment.



Hell, didn't Obama give NASA a "Muslim outreach" goal?

"Forget all that space stuff, guys, let's figure out how to be more friendly to Muslims instead."
This post was edited on 4/13/19 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 2:14 pm to
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Trans troops should be lining up for a firing squad.


I wouldn’t go that far in reality but I agree with the sentiments of this.

Turning our military into a fringe and quack social experiment to appease partisans and nutjobs is one of the most seditious if not outright treasonous things we’ve ever seen in American history.

The military is only supposed to be about killing and destroying who ever threatens America, and anything that undermines the morale, cohesiveness and professionalism towards that mission is something that has to be eradicated.

Anything that promotes individuality, not collectiveness, in the military has to be banned.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/13/19 at 2:26 pm to
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That's the crux of a Liberal's soul. Everything is a social engineering experiment.



And they’re fighting against human nature.
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