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re: John Bel Edwards is a Democrat of a different shade

Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:19 am to
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:19 am to
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Teachers have gotten one raise in the last 12 years and that was 580$ a year roughly 1%. Louisiana is at the bottom of of teacher pay average in the country and education scores is a result of that. Good teachers are leaving because we don't pay them. I agree the state has a multitude of problems but saying teacher pay should be down the list is being willfully ignorant of one of the major problems in this state. How do you judge merit? Do teachers that teach advanced classes get a raise because they are gifted with children who's intelligence is greater than the average student. Do special needs teachers get the shaft while having arguably the more difficult job. Do we really want the government deciding who gets what raises based on test scores that don't tell the whole story? Or do we at least try to get teacher average pay in line with the rest of the country so the talented teachers stop leaving the state. I like the latter option but you can continue to push your bad narrative.
Bossier has a large property tax increase election May 4, 2019, if passed will be used to increase teacher pay and all school employee pay. Question - why does supply and demand not apply to teacher jobs?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36239 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:36 am to
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Bossier has a large property tax increase election May 4, 2019, if passed will be used to increase teacher pay and all school employee pay. Question - why does supply and demand not apply to teacher jobs?

Here’s s good example of a local district providing pay raises for their teachers.

Edwards and his people want us to think teachers haven’t gotten raises in 12 years when they have been getting raises.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67216 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:50 am to
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Bossier has a large property tax increase election May 4, 2019, if passed will be used to increase teacher pay and all school employee pay. Question - why does supply and demand not apply to teacher jobs?


Because government.

Some teacher jobs are tough to fill (math, chemistry, biology, physics, special ed), while others have lots of applicants for every posting (elementary education, history, etc.). The issue is that schools rarely are allowed to pay different amounts for different kinds of teachers despite the qualifications of teachers to teach different subjects vary widely. It is much harder to get certified as a high school chemistry teacher than it is to be a 5th grade reading teacher, and this is reflected in the number of applicants for these openings.

As usual, the problem is due, in large part, to teacher unions and state and federal government essentially holding the purse strings for local school boards. We are overtaxed at the state and federal level, and those entities are involved in education funding so heavily now that the locals have very little say and limited abilities to raise funds, especially in rural poor areas. What we need is supply and demand to be restored:
1. School boards pay however much they believe it will take to attract applicants.
2. Allow school boards to vary the pay of different positions widely.
3. Have pay raises based on merit rather than tenure.
4. Eliminate tenure completely.

In this way, "bad" school districts (i.e. ones that have zero discipline in the schools so teachers are afraid of getting stabbed or beat up) will be allowed to have higher salaries to attract better talent, while those in good school districts that are in demand can offer less to save money. School districts could offer more money for teachers in subjects where qualified teachers are scarce, which will encourage more people interested in teaching to go into those fields.

This process works in literally every other industry. Why not apply it to teachers? If they don't pay enough for teachers to work there now, why are teachers still working? If teachers aren't being paid enough, they should quit or strike.
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