re: Greystone CC

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**CAVEAT**
I'm making a lot of assumptions about the real estate out there with this post. The assumptions, I think, are reasonable. But I'm obviously going to be quick to change my comments if Ell tells me they own land I assumed they don't




I think there are a few arguments that support the assertion that they ran out of real estate, but only a couple support the argument that the course is too narrow because they ran out of real estate. I think your best arguments are 2, 4, 10, and the 18/17/16/14 corridor, with the last two supporting the narrow/real estate issue.


2 would be a much better hole if that lake wasn't there, and I could hit driver near the backyard of those houses. It seems like the lake was put there to sell houses and ensure they weren't hit by golf balls. I'd also be cool with adding another tee box going back, but that is also someone's back yard, which is why this is a real estate issue, not a narrow/real estate issue. There just isn't enough room between the tee box and landing zone to hit driver.

4 is obvious. Double dog legs exist. This isn't the only one in the country. But it may be the only dog leg where my first shot is forced to be shorter than my second shot. There just isn't enough space to make the first shot longer, so another real estate issue, but not a narrow/real estate issue.

10 looks like a hole that would be fun to hit driver and then have a wedge on. You could make that number one if you cut down a ton of trees on the right, but I'm guessing they don't own a ton of land on the right side of the cart path. There is room lengthwise to land driver, but the fairway is too narrow to make it worth it. This is really exhibit A for narrow/real estate issue.

Start on the left side of 14 and go to the left side of 18. That patch of land doesn't seem like enough land to lay 4 holes out park style the way they have. It's like 250 yards, which only gives you 60 yards or so per hole. Once you add trees and rough, that doesn't leave you a ton of fairway. That's essentially the same amount of room Santa Maria has the 6/7/12 corridor. Same yardage wide, one less hole. While I'm sure you could find 4 holes in BR or somewhere else that are squeezed into the same or similar area, the fact that it doesn't appear that you can expand that corridor any makes it a narrow/real estate issue in my book. For a couple of those holes I'd appreciate a few extra yards to land my driver.





The real issue to me isn't about real estate. It's just not a design that I enjoy. Some people do enjoy the design, or just don't hate it. I like a little larger fairway and I like to be able to hit driver everywhere. It's all preference. I'm sure some people don't like the style golf courses I like. It is by far one of the more polarizing golf courses I've ever played or discussed.