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re: Yesterday, FORTY-FOUR Senate democrats voted for human euthanasia
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:08 am to Mr. Misanthrope
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:08 am to Mr. Misanthrope
quote:And this week’s Godwin Award goes to .....
Mr. Misanthrope
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Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:09 am to nematocyte
Nope.
Jeez the dumb in this thread is strong today.
Jeez the dumb in this thread is strong today.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:11 am to Roger Klarvin
Y’all locked and loaded, or just nah?
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:33 am to AggieHank86
[Edited with apology]
Well, the Socialist cabal working overtime to destroy our liberties and take permanent control of our country and its institutions and people incessantly uses the Trump-Republican-Conservative as Hitler meme which on its face is preposterous. I thought I'd return the favor.
They, the Socialists, on the other hand, have adopted the Nazi pattern of creating a corporate news media which parrots the party lies over and over and over and which is quickly eliminating alternative or dissenting views and is encouraging and practicing censorship on a significant and quickening scale.
What is Antifa and the like minded mobs in the streets, Universities, and hunting down Conservatives in restaurants but Mussolini's Black Shirts and Hitler's Brown Shirts?
I think my latter-day Socialists as Nazis meme is accurate and warranted. I don't give a rat's arse about Godwin's assertion. [Edit]
Edited to remove [or your use of it.] included in my original response to his reply with an apology to AggieHank86, a generally thoughtful and courteous writer whose response, in this instance, was uncharacteristically dismissive.
While my post was a bit tongue in cheek, mocking the Left's never ending Conservatives Are Nazis meme, it was nevertheless accurate. They are in fact the new totalitarians and should be taken more seriously than the Western democracies took Hitler and his cronies in the 1930s.
quote:
And this week’s Godwin Award goes to .....
Well, the Socialist cabal working overtime to destroy our liberties and take permanent control of our country and its institutions and people incessantly uses the Trump-Republican-Conservative as Hitler meme which on its face is preposterous. I thought I'd return the favor.
They, the Socialists, on the other hand, have adopted the Nazi pattern of creating a corporate news media which parrots the party lies over and over and over and which is quickly eliminating alternative or dissenting views and is encouraging and practicing censorship on a significant and quickening scale.
What is Antifa and the like minded mobs in the streets, Universities, and hunting down Conservatives in restaurants but Mussolini's Black Shirts and Hitler's Brown Shirts?
I think my latter-day Socialists as Nazis meme is accurate and warranted. I don't give a rat's arse about Godwin's assertion. [Edit]
Edited to remove [or your use of it.] included in my original response to his reply with an apology to AggieHank86, a generally thoughtful and courteous writer whose response, in this instance, was uncharacteristically dismissive.
While my post was a bit tongue in cheek, mocking the Left's never ending Conservatives Are Nazis meme, it was nevertheless accurate. They are in fact the new totalitarians and should be taken more seriously than the Western democracies took Hitler and his cronies in the 1930s.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 11:23 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:59 am to BamaAtl
quote:
There is no medical nessissity for a late term abortion.
That's incorrect.
Nope
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:14 am to gthog61
quote:There is no such thing as a post birth abortion. I wonder why the right has to make this shite up to fire up their troops.
Fight for that post birth abortion warrior!
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:18 am to texridder
quote:
There is no such thing as a post birth abortion.
That would be called murder
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:38 am to Roger Klarvin
ok hold on people, it's incorrect to say the doctor is allowed to "kill" the baby after birth
The bill requires doctors to provide care for the newborn. Not kill it. In fact the doctors are already supposed to help because of the Hippocratic oath right?
The bill requires doctors to provide care for the newborn. Not kill it. In fact the doctors are already supposed to help because of the Hippocratic oath right?
quote:
This bill amends the federal criminal code to require any health care practitioner who is present when a child is born alive following an abortion or attempted abortion to: (1) exercise the same degree of care as reasonably provided to any other child born alive at the same gestational age, and (2) ensure that such child is immediately admitted to a hospital. The term "born alive" means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut.
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 10:50 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:My point exactly.
There is no such thing as a post birth abortion.
That would be called murder
Posted on 2/28/19 at 11:28 pm to 225bred
quote:
Look at the black on black crime. There is definitely a lack of appreciation for human life among several different sects of our populace.
Yes the dems and their pets are evil, that doesn’t need normal people need to accept it
Posted on 2/28/19 at 11:40 pm to Roger Klarvin
Abortion was always a slippery-slope and the early detractors knew this.
Once this cult, this issue became the poster-child of women's rights, it was doomed to come down to this.
Liberation from all "actions have consequences" became the new norm.
Responsibility for one's actions became the patriarch oppressing them.
Once this cult, this issue became the poster-child of women's rights, it was doomed to come down to this.
Liberation from all "actions have consequences" became the new norm.
Responsibility for one's actions became the patriarch oppressing them.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:49 am to Bulldogblitz
Here are two stories about real death panels:
Story 1
Carrie Ann Lucas, Disability Rights Activist and Attorney, Dies Following Denial From Insurance Company
Story 2
Former Aetna Medical Director Admits To Never Reviewing Medical Records Before Denying Care
Story 1
Carrie Ann Lucas, Disability Rights Activist and Attorney, Dies Following Denial From Insurance Company
quote:
As she documented on her personal blog in January 2018, Lucas became ill with a bad cold. According to her Facebook page, her health insurer, UnitedHealthcare, refused to pay for a specific medication she needed, owing to its cost of $2,000. Consequently, she had to take a different and less-effective medication, which caused deleterious reactions. Lucas’ health rapidly declined, resulting in numerous hospital stays over the last year and the loss of her ability to speak. The obituary on her Facebook noted, “United Healthcare’s attempt to save $2,000 cost over $1 million in health care costs over the past year.” More importantly, Lucas’ friends and family argue, it cost her her life.
Story 2
Former Aetna Medical Director Admits To Never Reviewing Medical Records Before Denying Care
quote:
. . . former Aetna Medical Director, Dr. Jay Ken Iinuma, admitted under oath that “he never looked at patients’ records when deciding whether to approve or deny care.”
This admission was made during a deposition in a lawsuit brought against Aetna by Gillen Washington, a 23 year old with common variable immune deficiency (CVID) who was denied coverage for an infusion of intravenous immunoglobulin (IVIG) four years ago.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:56 am to BigAppleBucky
if we can just save one child...
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:07 am to Sprung
quote:
This is a sham vote. Just to get y'all riled up and y'all fall for it every time. The examples laid out are extremely rare if ever they occur. Late term abortions make up less than 2% of all abortions.
if so rare, why are democrats pushing so hard after Kavanaugh?
Posted on 3/2/19 at 11:02 am to Roger Klarvin
But according to the shills, it doesn't matter because it didn't pass. THEIR intentions only matter once it passes. Where's the shitheads to defend these senators' votes? If you vote for it, it means you and your party support the issue.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 11:13 am to BamaAtl
quote:
There is no medical nessissity for a late term abortion.
quote:
That's incorrect.
Please. Explain to us medical experts that have delivered babies a instance where intentional killing of the child is needed to save the mother's life. Of course, a C-section or induced delivery is abortion of the pregnancy, but not of the infant. How you you define "late term"? I've clearly stated many times that prior to the age of viability (age at which the child can live outside the mother's womb with or without medical assistance) it may be necessary to terminate a pregnancy due to the mother's health. At that point, it is entirely up to her whether to proceed with the pregnancy and risk her life, or end the pregnancy. After the age of viability, a women should not have the right to end the pregnancy without adequate medical reasons, even then, it should be done in a manner that it safest for the mother and the infant. I can think of absolutely no time ever that a dismemberment abortion of a live infant has been needed to save a mother's life and no better options were available. A dead baby? Yes, but that's not the discussion we're having.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 11:18 am to ApexTiger
quote:
Late term abortions make up less than 2% of all abortions.
Number still too high. Should be about 0%. Still waiting for the experts to post a scenario that would require killing a viable infant to save a mother. A C-section or vaginal induction that results in death of the infant isn't the same as killing it before it has a chance to fight. Can't save them all, but they should at least get the chance. And "termination of pregnancy" is not the same as termination of the infant. You can terminate a pregnancy for a multitude of reasons and save both mother and baby.
I do agree that a mother should have the choice to end a pregnancy if her life is at risk and the only way to save her would be to deliver the baby. But after the age of viability, the delivery method should be what's deemed best for both mother and baby.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 11:19 am to xiv
quote:
Y’all locked and loaded, or just nah?
Nah. Y'all shitbirds will do yourselves in without our assistance.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 11:23 am to BamaAtl
quote:
There are conditions which are incompatible with life for which abortion is offered as an option, however. Where legal, of course.
Key word "Incompatible with life". That's a non-viable fetus. At that point it's always been legal to terminate the pregnancy. Especially if the mother's life is at risk. Even in the third term. Changing the argument.
We're talking about the murder of viable infants without giving them a chance at survival.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 11:28 am to BigAppleBucky
quote:
Carrie Ann Lucas, Disability Rights Activist and Attorney, Dies Following Denial From Insurance Company quote:As she documented on her personal blog in January 2018, Lucas became ill with a bad cold. According to her Facebook page, her health insurer, UnitedHealthcare, refused to pay for a specific medication she needed, owing to its cost of $2,000. Consequently, she had to take a different and less-effective medication, which caused deleterious reactions. Lucas’ health rapidly declined, resulting in numerous hospital stays over the last year and the loss of her ability to speak. The obituary on her Facebook noted, “United Healthcare’s attempt to save $2,000 cost over $1 million in health care costs over the past year.” More importantly, Lucas’ friends and family argue, it cost her her life.
Needed a better doctor. Or a better insurance plan. United Healthcare is shite insurance. That's why people buy it. To "save money". Maybe she should've put that money back for what INSURANCE didn't cover. Now, I'm as anti-insurance as anyone, but if people want costs down...costs have to be cut. I've never had an instance where a patient needed a life saving medicine that I couldn't solve with some creativity. And it usually cost the insurer more than it would've to just cover the shite I asked for to begin with.
I'll actually read the story now.
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