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re: National debt tops $22 trillion for the first time as experts warn of ripple effects
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:56 am to cahoots
Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:56 am to cahoots
quote:You still have no point. The Dems have majority support for new spending that is FAR greater than ALL current military spending and ain't NO ONE for reducing military spending to zero. You couldn't even if you tried.
Yes it’s the largest discretionary. However you slice it, it is a big piece of the pie.
So. My point remains.
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 11:57 am to ShortyRob
What is your point? That electing republicans saves money? Because it hasn’t
You play hypotheticals but more Republicans have not empirically reduced the deficit
You play hypotheticals but more Republicans have not empirically reduced the deficit
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 11:58 am
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:00 pm to cahoots
quote:Literally my first post on the subject said that overall, Republicans have not met the mail on spending but AT LEAST there ARE Republicans in DC who want to. They simply are outnumbered. The number of Dems who want to reduce overall spending is exactly zero.
What is your point? That electing republicans saves money?
MEANWHILE, the Dems have MAJORITY SUPPORT for INCREASING spending SUBSTANTIALLY by creating NEW programs.
When confronted with driving off a cliff, if there are two people in the front seat with access to the gas pedal...........one keeps driving highway speed towards the cliff and one wants to floor it, then, you take what you can get and kill the dude trying to floor it.
Dems literally CANNOT speak about budget spending with any credibility and you know it. NO ONE wants to touch non-discretionary spending and Democrats want to PILE ON to discretionary AND THEY ALSO WANT TO ADD non-discretionary!!!
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:02 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:
You're right. We should build a great wall. That'll cut spending and lower the debt. Better yet, let's give corporations a tax break. That'll help the debt also
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:02 pm to boogiewoogie1978
quote:
National debt tops $22 trillion
frickery and frick every one of them
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:02 pm to boogiewoogie1978
We all know Republicans will find Jesus on "fiscal responsibility" once again in 2021 when a Democratic President is inaugurated.
...then lose it the next time a Republican wins. Like they always do.
...then lose it the next time a Republican wins. Like they always do.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:04 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Well Barry doubled it during his term. I don’t think Trump is anywhere near being on pace to do that.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:04 pm to boogiewoogie1978
quote:
tax code that fails to generate sufficient revenue, he said.
frick right off.
Your spending should be constrained by revenue. Not revenue set by spending.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:05 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Dems literally CANNOT speak about budget spending with any credibility and you know it. NO ONE wants to touch non-discretionary spending and Democrats want to PILE ON to discretionary AND THEY ALSO WANT TO ADD non-discretionary!!!
They ONLY want to cut what they perceive as Republican pet projects.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:05 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Honestly, the problem is in ~360M American bathroom mirrors.
frickery and frick every one of them
I can't think of a single thing that would actually make a difference that you could cut substantially in the budget that wouldn't create a goddamned firestorm in the American public.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:07 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Literally my first post on the subject said that overall, Republicans have not met the mail on spending but AT LEAST there ARE Republicans in DC who want to. They simply are outnumbered. The number of Dems who want to reduce overall spending is exactly zero.
And my entire point is that Republicans "who want to" are just pandering to people like you. When it comes down to it, they don't get it done. It's all talk.
To use your example, the car is driving at the same speed off the cliff. Republicans are claiming that they are pumping the brakes, but they are not. Show me some numbers that say otherwise.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:09 pm to ShortyRob
To add.
The budget deficit in 2018 was about 780B.
OK. Pretend you cut the entire fricking military. That's $670B.
You couldn't pass a bill with another $120B in cuts if your fricking life depended on it.
The budget deficit in 2018 was about 780B.
OK. Pretend you cut the entire fricking military. That's $670B.
You couldn't pass a bill with another $120B in cuts if your fricking life depended on it.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:10 pm to BamaAtl
How can you look at this graph and say with a straight face that medicare and ss aren’t elephants in the room?
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:10 pm to cahoots
quote:OK. Great.
And my entire point is that Republicans "who want to" are just pandering to people like you
And exactly ZERO Dems even pretend to want to cut spending and a MAJORITY want ENTIRELY NEW programs to pile on BOTH in discretionary and non-discretionary!!!
quote:No. Republicans claim that, but have basically maintained speed(which sucks).
To use your example, the car is driving at the same speed off the cliff. Republicans are claiming that they are pumping the brakes, but they are not
Democrats want to drop an elephant on the accellerator
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:12 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
To add.
The budget deficit in 2018 was about 780B.
OK. Pretend you cut the entire fricking military. That's $670B.
You couldn't pass a bill with another $120B in cuts if your fricking life depended on it.
Dude, the Trump admin is using a 5% cut in discretionary spending as their purported goal. Tax revenues are already down this year. The dial is not being moved by Rs. What is it going to take for you to get that.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:This is why, if the Dems really want to talk to people like me about the deficit, I'll happily listen because yeah, Repubs have failed on it.
How can you look at this graph and say with a straight face that medicare and ss aren’t elephants in the room?
But, you can't talk to me about deficits while you're proposing massive new spending programs. I mean really.....that's just frickery.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:13 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
No. Republicans claim that, but have basically maintained speed(which sucks).
Democrats want to drop an elephant on the accellerator
It was no worse 5 years ago than today. You're letting your feelings get in the way bro
The dial is not moving. It just isn't
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:14 pm to cahoots
quote:At no point have I lauded Repubs for their deficit approach.
Dude, the Trump admin is using a 5% cut in discretionary spending as their purported goal. Tax revenues are already down this year. The dial is not being moved by Rs. What is it going to take for you to get that.
I'm just not going to listen to the assholes who want to explode it on steroids try and tell me they give a shite. It's retarded.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:15 pm to cahoots
CAHoots, major dem candidates just cosponsored a plan that would add 40 trillion in debt over ten years.
What have repubs put forward that compares to that?
What have repubs put forward that compares to that?
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:15 pm to cahoots
quote:Are you pretending that it is NOT true that the Dems have majority support in their caucus for MASSIVE new spending?
It was no worse 5 years ago than today. You're letting your feelings get in the way bro
The dial is not moving. It just isn't
I mean, the fact they can't get it through ain't exactly a refutation.
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